Why I Find It Painful to Watch the O's Lately

[TINSTAAPP]

Didn't some people want Crowley and Presley fired over the years? I fire Mark Quinn. Also should fire the pitching coach .

I think it's pretty telling that the Rangers fired Coolbaugh after 2012 even though they ended up leading the American League in runs scored that year. Their situational hitting was terrible and their offense was very inconsistent and collapsed during the second half of the season sort of like this year's Orioles team.

[jpking17]

Let me say this first...Buck is our guy...but this is starting to feel exactly like last

season where we went 11-18 in August. It's weird because when Buck first came on board

we hung our hat on our second half in many of Buck's first few years...but guys were

playing hard for roster spots for the next season then...so the question is do we go all

Terry Collins on our clubhouse? Either way...it would be nice to see some fire out of this

team...maybe Manny needs to get into another fight...because I felt great about this team at that time.

[evenparthrough9]

I thought this team had the best record in the AL since 2012, but . . . . . . . .

What trophy do you get for that?

[evenparthrough9]

Haven't won in 33 years and people are happy with status quo. Amazing.

[TouchemAll]

What happened to the quality at bats and improved approach at the plate that we saw at the beginning of the season? Seems like we have regressed right back to where we were before. I am a sad O's fan right now.

Agree the offense is abysmal right now. The bats must carry this team the pitching WILL NOT get us to the end of the playoff rainbow.

[Ruzious]

Wow, this thread is brutally bad for the most part. Who cares how many innings the team hasn't scored in over a miscellaneous period of innings?

Look at the run differential. That's probably the best determinant of what the team is capable of. The O's simply aren't as talented as the Toronto and Boston. They need to get more talent, but be impressed that they manage to stay in the hunt against more talented teams.

[evenparthrough9]

Wow, this thread is brutally bad for the most part. Who cares how many innings the team hasn't scored in over a miscellaneous period of innings?

Look at the run differential. That's probably the best determinant of what the team is capable of. The O's simply aren't as talented as the Toronto and Boston. They need to get more talent, but be impressed that they manage to stay in the hunt against more talented teams.

They need different types of talent. Players who can be productive when home runs aren't being hit. We blew it on Fowler two years in a row. We blew it on Ben Revere. DD just can't close deals and we settle on whoever is left on the scrap pile.

[Ruzious]

They need different types of talent. Players who can be productive when home runs aren't being hit. We blew it on Fowler two years in a row. We blew it on Ben Revere. DD just can't close deals and we settle on whoever is left on the scrap pile.

While I heartily agree that it would have helped to get Fowler, I disagree that it's because he's a different type of talent. He'd help us because he's a very talented player.

[Bradysburns]

I don't mind power first, defense second and plate discipline third. Especially in Camden Yards. But, if you look at our defense, our outfield is abysmal, Hardy is slowing down, Schoop has a cannon but average range at best. We are a below average defensive team.

I think when you take away "good defense" and you're left with just power, basically, you have a middling team at best. Hmm.

[Beef Supreme]

Davis will at least take a walk, even with as bad a year he is having Davis is still third on the team in OBP. I'm convinced if Schoop came up with the Red Sox, he would not hack at everything and be an all star player. Schoop is good, I think he could be better.

You seem easy to convince.

Looking to buy a car?

[Tx Oriole]

I said this last week and got ridiculed. This board doesn't like to face reality

Yes but your reality is the team is toast. There are forty something games left. Anything can happen. There is still time. Where you throw in the towel I don't. The team is not going to give up.

[Tx Oriole]

Let me say this first...Buck is our guy...but this is starting to feel exactly like last

season where we went 11-18 in August. It's weird because when Buck first came on board

we hung our hat on our second half in many of Buck's first few years...but guys were

playing hard for roster spots for the next season then...so the question is do we go all

Terry Collins on our clubhouse? Either way...it would be nice to see some fire out of this

team...maybe Manny needs to get into another fight...because I felt great about this team at that time.

Yep lets be sure Manny gets in another fight where he would get suspended.

[LookitsPuck]

Our hitters who they are. A bunch of aggressive hitters (aside from maybe 3) who strikeout a ton, swing early and hope to make a lot of damage on one swing. They're not going up there trying to shorten their swing or be patient.

[Tx Oriole]

I posted about plate discipline in June during a 5 game winning streak and was belittles and ridiculed. People don't want to see the truth and will search high and low to find one advanced matrix to say this is a good team. It's not! Average at best. Coolbaugh would be fired immediately if I had the power.

Yep fire the coach. He can only coach and suggest a player does this or that. It's up to the player. He can't make the hitters have plate discipline. Maybe the hitters are set in their ways when they get to the big club. Don't take direction from a coach. I don't know. It's just an idea.

[Three Run Homer]

Davis has improved his BB% every year from 2011 (5.2%) to present (14.1%). But for the most part I agree, if you haven't learned or developed plate discipline by now you're likely not going to.

Davis is disciplined to a fault. He takes too many called third strikes. Sometimes he's the victim of bad calls, but in any event he needs to change his philosophy to one of defending the plate on close pitches when he has two strikes.