4 way tie???

[waroriole]

In the event that BAL, DET, SEA, and HOU all finish 87-75, how is a tiebreaker determined? 4 team mini tourney?

[weams]

In the event that BAL, DET, SEA, and HOU all finish 87-75, how is a tiebreaker determined? 4 team mini tourney?

Couldn't Toronto also join that tie?

[CWalston108]

This is from Wikipedia. Don't ask me what happens if its a 5-way tie.

Playoff games for multiple-way ties

Tied teams are designated as A, B, C, and D. Choice for one of these designations is first given to the team winning the tie-breakers (listed below). While A is usually the "best" designation, there are some scenarios where C has a different path to the postseason. If a division title is up for grabs, then those divisional teams will select from the first designations (A, B,...).

On Day 1, A will host B and C will host D (if there is no fourth team, C will be considered to have won this game). Games on Day 2 may occur as follows:

If the teams are all competing for 1 playoff spot then the A/B winner will host the C/D winner for that spot.

If 3 teams, not all tied for the same division lead, are competing for 2 playoff spots, C will host the A/B loser for the second spot.

If 4 teams were competing for 3 playoff spots, then the A/B loser will host the C/D loser for the final wild-card spot.

If 2 teams, tied for the same division's lead, both win on Day 1, then the A/B winner will host the C/D winner to determine the division title. The loser of this Day 2 game will earn any remaining wild card spot.

Determining team designations

The order in which teams pick their designations (A, B, C, D) will be determined by the following 5-step tie-breaking system. If there is a tie for both wild card and division title spots, then the first designations will match teams competing for their division title.

Winning/Losing every series against each of the other tied teams

Winning percentage among all tied teams

Winning percentage in intradivision games

Winning percentage in the last half of intraleague play

If still tied, the next most recent intraleague game is added into this winning percentage (skipping games between tied teams) until not all teams are tied.

If at any given step some, but not all, teams remain tied, then those teams that are still tied revert to Step 1.

[waroriole]

Couldn't Toronto also join that tie?

They could. If we win tonight, then both of us get swept over the weekend.

[waroriole]

Thanks Walston. Good find. So, a 4 team tourney, to play a 1 game play in.

[CWalston108]

It's worth noting that TOR won the season series against both BAL, DET, and HOU. They tied with SEA. So they would most likely have first choice if we tied with them.

[atomic]

Thanks Walston. Good find. So, a 4 team tourney, to play a 1 game play in.

Yeah winning 3 games straight seems pretty remote if we can't win 2 out of the next 4.

[Ruzious]

I believe the new stipulations of the latest CBA call for rock paper scissors and cucumbers.

[PaulFolk]

Couldn't Toronto also join that tie?

They could. If we win tonight, then both of us get swept over the weekend.

Houston and Toronto can't be involved in a tie with each other. The Blue Jays have already won 87 games, and the Astros can only win 86 at most (they currently have 83 with three games left).

Here are the win totals at which teams could conceivably tie:

90 wins: Blue Jays/Orioles

89 wins: Blue Jays/Orioles/Tigers

88 wins: Blue Jays/Orioles/Tigers/Mariners

87 wins: Blue Jays/Orioles/Tigers/Mariners

86 wins: Orioles/Tigers/Mariners/Astros/Yankees

[weams]

Houston and Toronto can't be involved in a tie with each other. The Blue Jays have already won 87 games, and the Astros can only win 86 at most (they currently have 83 with three games left).

Here are the win totals at which teams could conceivably tie:

90 wins: Blue Jays/Orioles

89 wins: Blue Jays/Orioles/Tigers

88 wins: Blue Jays/Orioles/Tigers/Mariners

87 wins: Blue Jays/Orioles/Tigers/Mariners

86 wins: Orioles/Tigers/Mariners/Astros/Yankees

Thank you for the research. Love it.

[NashLumber]

Houston and Toronto can't be involved in a tie with each other. The Blue Jays have already won 87 games, and the Astros can only win 86 at most (they currently have 83 with three games left).

Here are the win totals at which teams could conceivably tie:

90 wins: Blue Jays/Orioles

89 wins: Blue Jays/Orioles/Tigers

88 wins: Blue Jays/Orioles/Tigers/Mariners

87 wins: Blue Jays/Orioles/Tigers/Mariners

86 wins: Orioles/Tigers/Mariners/Astros/Yankees

Fascinating. I'd prefer no ties at all involving the Orioles, but if any of this happens, it'll rival or exceed that Day 162 in 2011 for excitement.

[srock]

This is from Wikipedia. Don't ask me what happens if its a 5-way tie.

Playoff games for multiple-way ties

Tied teams are designated as A, B, C, and D. Choice for one of these designations is first given to the team winning the tie-breakers (listed below). While A is usually the "best" designation, there are some scenarios where C has a different path to the postseason. If a division title is up for grabs, then those divisional teams will select from the first designations (A, B,...).

On Day 1, A will host B and C will host D (if there is no fourth team, C will be considered to have won this game). Games on Day 2 may occur as follows:

If the teams are all competing for 1 playoff spot then the A/B winner will host the C/D winner for that spot.

If 3 teams, not all tied for the same division lead, are competing for 2 playoff spots, C will host the A/B loser for the second spot.

If 4 teams were competing for 3 playoff spots, then the A/B loser will host the C/D loser for the final wild-card spot.

If 2 teams, tied for the same division's lead, both win on Day 1, then the A/B winner will host the C/D winner to determine the division title. The loser of this Day 2 game will earn any remaining wild card spot.

Determining team designations

The order in which teams pick their designations (A, B, C, D) will be determined by the following 5-step tie-breaking system. If there is a tie for both wild card and division title spots, then the first designations will match teams competing for their division title.

Winning/Losing every series against each of the other tied teams

Winning percentage among all tied teams

Winning percentage in intradivision games

Winning percentage in the last half of intraleague play

If still tied, the next most recent intraleague game is added into this winning percentage (skipping games between tied teams) until not all teams are tied.

If at any given step some, but not all, teams remain tied, then those teams that are still tied revert to Step 1.

Is it wrong of me to kind of hope a 4 way tie occurs? This sounds super fun.

[waroriole]

Houston and Toronto can't be involved in a tie with each other. The Blue Jays have already won 87 games, and the Astros can only win 86 at most (they currently have 83 with three games left).

Here are the win totals at which teams could conceivably tie:

90 wins: Blue Jays/Orioles

89 wins: Blue Jays/Orioles/Tigers

88 wins: Blue Jays/Orioles/Tigers/Mariners

87 wins: Blue Jays/Orioles/Tigers/Mariners

86 wins: Orioles/Tigers/Mariners/Astros/Yankees

Oh, you're right. I just looked at 83 wins and assumed they had 4 games left.

[Frobby]

Fascinating. I'd prefer no ties at all involving the Orioles, but if any of this happens, it'll rival or exceed that Day 162 in 2011 for excitement.

I'd almost prefer a 4-way tie to winning outright, because it would be so unique and exciting. Unprecedented in baseball history.

Notice I said "almost."

[sevastras]

Looks like we would be on the road for all three games. Those are long odds stacked against you. I hope this doesn't happen. Four way tie would be a disaster for us.

It would be two games. The 4 teams would play on Monday and the Wild Card on Tuesday. Still, dont want to play an extra game.