Update: O's sign Trumbo to 3yr/$37 mil deal

[Babypowder]

16 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Not sure.  I saw that Fangraphs had him at 2.7 WAR last season if he had played first up to his previously demonstrated ability.  Have to figure that's better than he would do as a DH.

They had a similar article that showed he actually would have had the same value as a strict DH as he did last year. No gain or loss. Just an average ball player, a breadstick at his best.

[pastorfan]

Let Trumbo play RF and sign Carter. Then we can really see if power can get you to a championship.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Babypowder said:

They had a similar article that showed he actually would have had the same value as a strict DH as he did last year. No gain or loss. Just an average ball player, a breadstick at his best.

Did they factor in the average drop in OPS associated with being a full time DH?  (seriously asking)

[Dark Helmet]

Man. That $36 m would have really been nice when they fall $100m short of what Manny will get.

[Babypowder]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

Did they factor in the average drop in OPS associated with being a full time DH?  (seriously asking)

I don't believe so. Let me see if I can dig it up.

[weams]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

Did they factor in the average drop in OPS associated with being a full time DH?  (seriously asking)

That's ridiculous if they did. 

[Machado13]

IMO this is not a steal nor an overpay. Just feels, I don't know, average? Lukewarm? Not particularly for or against it. Guess it's one more good bat to have in a relentless division.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, weams said:

That's ridiculous if they did. 

Why is that?  The average player doesn't perform as well as a DH.  Trumbo doesn't have much of a track record to show it wouldn't apply to him.

[oriolediehard]

55 minutes ago, weams said:

Mancini has bean a wonderful older minor leaguer with no real position.

Is it possible Chris Davis can agree to play right field and Trey Mancini and Trumbo can alternate first base and DH?

[pwhite]

1 hour ago, Number5 said:

I'm not sure that 3 years for less than $40 would be considered a bad contract for Trumbo.  The Orioles have done pretty well with this type of lineup, haven't they?

No, after seeing 3/37.5 I am fine with it. That's a steal.

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, Machado13 said:

IMO this is not a steal nor an overpay. Just feels, I don't know, average? Lukewarm? Not particularly for or against it. Guess it's one more good bat to have in a relentless division.

Except they once again passed on an additional draft pick.

And of course they are signing talents like Trumbo long term instead of the more talented players on the team.

[backwardsk]

Someone's got to go from the 40, right?  Who will that be?

[crawjo]

The 2016 Orioles were one of my least favorite teams to watch. Too many home runs, too many strikeouts, decent enough success with a core group of players that feels like it's reached its ceiling. Now that we've doubled down on more or less bringing back the same offense for 2017 (and beyond) I'm not looking forward to watching them play next year. I feeI like I already know what this team is capable of, and they play a kind of baseball that I find boring. If I thought they would win 95 games, I'd put up with it, but honestly I'd rather see them get younger, faster, and less competitive than to watch the same group of veterans bang their heads against the same obstacles for another 162 games. 

[Dark Helmet]

14 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Except they once again passed on an additional draft pick.

And of course they are signing talents like Trumbo long term instead of the more talented players on the team.

And if they sign Manny to a longterm deal, people will find something wrong with it. 

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Dark Helmet said:

And if they sign Manny to a longterm deal, people will find something wrong with it. 

I'm sure they can find a way to make even a Manny extension unpalatable. 

It's like I have VR goggles but the only game I can play is one where I watch car wrecks in slow motion.