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POLL: Yay or nay on Beckham trade?


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POLL: Do you like the Tim Beckham trade?  

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  1. 1. Do you like the Tim Beckham trade?

    • Yes. Beckham is under control through 2020 and could be the SS of the future.
      92
    • No. We should be acquiring prospects, not trading them away.
      24
    • Meh. Nothing lost, nothing gained.
      17

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5 minutes ago, webbrick2010 said:

Tobias Myers had a very solid year at A ball at the age of 20

10-6 with a 3.71 ERA in 119 innings

2.70 ERA in his last 56 innings finishing the season strong

In AA as a 21 yo next year

You mean A+, or do you think they are going to skip him up a level.

3.71 ERA, 4.15 FIP, 119 IP, 7.64 K/9, 3.10 BB/9, 2.46 K/BB

Brenan Hanifee (who I said was the better of the two at the time of the trade, and still)

2.86 ERA, 3.63 FIP, 132 IP, 5.80 K/9, 1.50 BB/9, 3.86 K/BB

Hanifee is also more projectable and has an easier path to improvement. 

They kept the right one. 

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8 minutes ago, Luke-OH said:

You mean A+, or do you think they are going to skip him up a level.

3.71 ERA, 4.15 FIP, 119 IP, 7.64 K/9, 3.10 BB/9, 2.46 K/BB

Brenan Hanifee (who I said was the better of the two at the time of the trade, and still)

2.86 ERA, 3.63 FIP, 132 IP, 5.80 K/9, 1.50 BB/9, 3.86 K/BB

Hanifee is also more projectable and has an easier path to improvement. 

They kept the right one. 

Would’ve been nice to keep both.   Still, solid year for Myers.   He’ll be in A+, not AA, at the start of next year.   But, his baseball age this year was 19, not 20 as webbrick2010 reported.    He was the youngest player on the Bowling Green pitching staff.  (Hanifee’s baseball age was 20 but he’s only 68 days older than Myers and they were drafted the same year.)

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Just now, Redskins Rick said:

Good to know, thank you.

Hardy would still be better were he playing today. From 2007-2016 J.J. was the best defensive SS in baseball.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=ss&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2016&month=0&season1=2007&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=20,d

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4 minutes ago, El Gordo said:

Hardy had about the best catch and sweep down on the runner trying to steal 2nd of anybody, including Cal, that I watched play.

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Just now, Luke-OH said:

Core/Abdominal injuries are no joke. 

Which is why he shouldn't be evaluated based on this year. He has the tools to be an above average  defensive SS. Give him next year with Dickerson and see. Nobody better in he organization right now.

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