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2 hours ago, FlipTheBird said:

Given how well Welington has hit this year, as catchers go, I imagine he will probably opt out. .800 OPS, slugging way up.

If a player signs a deal for over a certain amount doesn't the team losing the FA get like a 3rd pick? We've gone from giving Castillo away on waivers to getting draft pick compensation for him.  haha.  

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9 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

If a player signs a deal for over a certain amount doesn't the team losing the FA get like a 3rd pick? We've gone from giving Castillo away on waivers to getting draft pick compensation for him.  haha.  

I thought we were still doing the qualifying offer thing. 

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3 hours ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

Mostly has to due with catcher ERA, when Caleb is catching the staff ERA is 4.32 and when it's Castillo 5.53.

With some pitchers the split is very pronounced,  Miley has an ERA of 3.86 with Caleb and 6.26 with Castillo.

Gausman 3.13 ERA with Caleb and 7.53 with Castillo behind the plate.

 

OK....It makes sense.  I understand a catcher is more important for the pitcher than his bat...I didn't think about that.

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5 hours ago, birdwatcher55 said:

 

Are you a family member? I have no trouble cutting bait this offseason and taking the $7 million and devote it to pitching. We dont need a 20 HR catcher; just two solid guys who can handle what is hopefully a revamped pitching staff in 2018.

This is getting irritating.  He's not perfect but... he's likely an .800 OPS guy this year, he's leading the league in throwing out runners percentage and double-play put-outs, and $7 mil for 1 year isn't going to break any MLB bank.  He's almost certainly going to opt out, and if he somehow doesn't, he'd be easily tradable.  I've never seen such a quality Orioles player get so dis-respected.  People are so anxious to find the one or two indirect stats that he looks bad in and then ignore all the more direct stats that he does well at.  

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4 hours ago, Ruzious said:

This is getting irritating.  He's not perfect but... he's likely an .800 OPS guy this year, he's leading the league in throwing out runners percentage and double-play put-outs, and $7 mil for 1 year isn't going to break any MLB bank.  He's almost certainly going to opt out, and if he somehow doesn't, he'd be easily tradable.  I've never seen such a quality Orioles player get so dis-respected.  People are so anxious to find the one or two indirect stats that he looks bad in and then ignore all the more direct stats that he does well at.  

Thank you. I've always been a big Joseph fan and would have never given Wieters $17 million, but Castillo has been great. He's not great at framing but his arm is amazing. The big ERA difference is simply because Joseph was Miley's exclusive catcher for like the firs 4-5 starts when Miley was one of the best pitchers in baseball. Stubborn Buck wouldn't let that continue but in recent weeks it hasn't mattered who has been coaching Miley.

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32 minutes ago, Rojo13 said:

Thank you. I've always been a big Joseph fan and would have never given Wieters $17 million, but Castillo has been great. He's not great at framing but his arm is amazing. The big ERA difference is simply because Joseph was Miley's exclusive catcher for like the firs 4-5 starts when Miley was one of the best pitchers in baseball. Stubborn Buck wouldn't let that continue but in recent weeks it hasn't mattered who has been coaching Miley.

Those 4-5 starts don't account for the bulk of the difference between the CERAs of the two.
And Miley, depite starting the season with a low ERA, could never be called "one of the best pitchers in baseball."

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20 hours ago, Beef Supreme said:

Though the player could still decline the option if his agent thinks the player could sign for more money, right? Then the Orioles would be off the hook, correct?

Seems pointless to dfa him, imo.

Yes, I think that's correct. 

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13 minutes ago, Ruzious said:

It's ironic that Wieters is getting a lot of credit for Gio Gonzales' great season.  Wieters is the same guy who supposedly couldn't frame and call pitches with the O's.  

Don't let the media fool you, he still can't according to the stats: http://www.statcorner.com/CatcherReport.php

Worth noting and not surprising in the least bit, Joseph is 10th of all catchers.

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48 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Don't let the media fool you, he still can't according to the stats: http://www.statcorner.com/CatcherReport.php

Worth noting and not surprising in the least bit, Joseph is 10th of all catchers.

The media simply reports facts that is why it is called reporting.  If it were otherwise it would clearly be noted as opining!  

Excuse me what?  The media really isn't doing it that way?

Oh well that IS embarrassing.  Well then yes. Do not let the media fool you!!!

 

Edit to add, that Beef has been a good investment imho and while I can see the arguments either way as to whether he exercises his option, I for one see this as an ideal move by DD.  I think if he exercises we are fine either way and if he walks we are fine either way.  I wish him well regardless and I believe he will be here.

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15 hours ago, Rojo13 said:

Thank you. I've always been a big Joseph fan and would have never given Wieters $17 million, but Castillo has been great. He's not great at framing but his arm is amazing. The big ERA difference is simply because Joseph was Miley's exclusive catcher for like the firs 4-5 starts when Miley was one of the best pitchers in baseball. Stubborn Buck wouldn't let that continue but in recent weeks it hasn't mattered who has been coaching Miley.

4 of our 5 starters (including Tillman in that group and not Hellickson) have an ERA at least two runs a game lower with Joseph catching.

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