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16 minutes ago, Dark Helmet said:

Good stuff. Thanks. I really hope Harvey does work out for the Orioles. If he can become at worst a 2 or 3 and Sedlock can become at east a 3 or 4, add that to Bundy and Gausman. Suddenly, the rotation looks alot better in 2 years. Health being the key.

Plenty of risk, it's an unknown adding a bunch of innings, but he's a guy.

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So, if you're Dan, who is out there to trade for at this point? Which route will we go to fill the rotation out? Trade or free agency? 

I say grab a couple 1 year rentals on firm deals packed with incentives like Lackey, Vargas, and Dickey. Maybe Jaime Garcia. Lots of interesting names that could be signed to milb deals like Peavy, Bucholz, Colon, Wood, Holland.

I Could deal with:

Gausman

Bundy

Vargas

Lackey

One of the milb FA, Castro, Rule V guy, Ynoa, maybe Dickey if we spend for 3 starters.

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1 hour ago, Luke-OH said:

He very well could be, but he dropped out of the top 100 and then out of the Astros top ten, not because he was blocked but because he had a  <.700 OPS in the PCL in 2016.  He had a bounceback in 2017 but he was also 24 and repeating AAA.  He could flame out against major league pitching too.  I think his median outcome is a 45/50 type guy (1.5-2.0 WAR player). Mancini has already had a MLB season of that level, I think it's fair to say Mancini is clearly more valuable.

He was in their top ten according to MLB.com around the deadline this summer when the Os rumors were swirling about Britton, he was said to ge in the deal. He's losing his prospect status due to age. He's definitely ready to be at the bigs.

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2 hours ago, Luke-OH said:

Plenty of risk, it's an unknown adding a bunch of innings, but he's a guy.

To follow up Moran is now ranked as the Pirates 4th best prospect , and the 4th player Martin at 18th even though he was just drafted in 2016.

MUsgrove and Feliz are considered MLB players at this point

 

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=pit

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21 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

He was in their top ten according to MLB.com around the deadline this summer when the Os rumors were swirling about Britton, he was said to ge in the deal. He's losing his prospect status due to age. He's definitely ready to be at the bigs.

You sure?  I don't remember that and I don't know how to check it.  He definitely wasn't in BA's top 10.

https://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/2017-houston-astros-midseason-top-10-prospects/#itDO4jtBIKdHXh4Z.97

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41 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

He was in the Astros top 10 prospects list on MLB...sorry if it wasn't clear

I understood that, but how sure are you about that?  MLB constantly changes their ranking and I don't know how to go back and retrieve a past ranking for them.  Since it is certain that he was not in BA's top 10 at the time, I was wondering if you are certain that he was so highly ranked on MLB.com.

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1 hour ago, Roll Tide said:

To follow up Moran is now ranked as the Pirates 4th best prospect , and the 4th player Martin at 18th even though he was just drafted in 2016.

MUsgrove and Feliz are considered MLB players at this point

 

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=pit

Martin was drafted in 2013.  I realize Musgrove and Feliz are MLB players. Feliz is a poor middle reliever at this point with intriguing potential, Musgrove is a long man (a solid one) and a spot starter, and I’d be happy if he could be a 2 WAR (back of rotation) starter. Moran could be a average 3B, but that’s far from a guarantee.

Moran’s spot on the Pirates list makes sense, their system isn’t very good outside Meadows, Keller , and Baz. Hes a grade 50 by their assessment, so comparable to Tanner Scott, Akin, etc on the Orioles list. Again guys who are in the top 200 conversation but aren’t top 100 guys. That said, I’m not particularly high on the MLB.com lists, especially at this time of the year (new lists come out at the end of the month).

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Neal Huntington was on Bowden and Duquette's Sunday show on MLBN radio this morning, and the way he is looking at it is that he received three top 100 prospects in the deal for Cole.  Some of them aren't prospects anymore, but have had some MLB service time but blocked in a loaded Houston system.  Honestly, I don't think we have that in our system, or have the ability to give it up with a mid-range system like we have.  

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