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2 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Is there any reason to think that his work from several years ago, prior to surgery, should be weighted more highly than that of last year, post-surgery, in a slightly less competitive league?

I mean other than the idea it makes the signing look better.

I think its more of a mental fortitude, and not just skillset.

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19 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

I agree, people have a tendency to be very negative, when hiding behind a keyboard or smartphone.

I too, get annoyed, and wonder what team some of the really negative ones actually root for.

I get annoyed when people question someone questions one's fanhood because he's critical of how a team is operated or managed; I guess we are supposed to be a shill for every move made.

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Just now, mcgraw238 said:

I get annoyed when people question someone questions one's fanhood because he's critical of how a team is operated or managed; I guess we are supposed to be a shill for every move made.

Yeah but some people don't offer real suggestions on how to operate the team. They would be negative no matter what the team did.  I highly doubt some of them are fans of the team.  And if the team did listen to what they said the team would win 45 games a year. 

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Just now, mcgraw238 said:

I get annoyed when people question someone questions one's fanhood because he's critical of how a team is operated or managed; I guess we are supposed to be a shill for every move made.

True, critical for discussion sake, and I can respect the difference of opinion and agree to disagree.

But there are a couple that are clearly so negative on every single move, that its trollish.

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Just now, atomic said:

Yeah but some people don't offer real suggestions on how to operate the team. They would be negative no matter what the team did.  I highly doubt some of them are fans of the team.  And if the team did listen to what they said the team would win 45 games a year. 

Well said, and very true.

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3 hours ago, weams said:

 

In the history of the draft the 88th pick overall has only provided a combined total of 25 WAR.  And 14 of that WAR came in one player.  Pretty much a lottery ticket at that point.  

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1 minute ago, atomic said:

In the history of the draft the 88th pick overall has only provided a combined total of 25 WAR.  And 14 of that WAR came in one player.  Pretty much a lottery ticket at that point.  

bottom line, most likely what they gain from Cobb will far outweigh what they would have got from the lost pick.

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1 hour ago, Redskins Rick said:

You know, all off-season, all I seen wrote in OH, is we have to sign one of the big three FA.

The team signs one of the big three, and the number 5th FA.

So, you think, somebody would be happy for at least a day? :(

 

Rick I have been negative sometimes too. But I am glad to have Cobb on the team. That gives me some hope for the team.  

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I'm so stoked.  Cobb was the guy I wanted them to sign from the start.  The AL East track record is huge in my eyes.  And I just confirmed last night that I'm going to Opening Day.  A lot has to go right, but this team has a legit chance to make the playoffs, and the talent to advance if they get there.

My Dad, brother and I are also heading up to Boston from 4/13 - 4/15, we're catching the Friday and Saturday games, and then flying home Sunday morning.  Can't wait for that - we might actually be able to hang a couple of L's on them!

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8 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

I agree, people have a tendency to be very negative, when hiding behind a keyboard or smartphone.

I too, get annoyed, and wonder what team some of the really negative ones actually root for.

For me it's more concern for the future than anything else. When you've gone through 14 consecutive losing seasons because of bad baseball decisions, I think one gets a little gun shy. The Orioles margin for error in this division is razor thin.

Corn put it very succinctly last night:

Every year, they put the most competitive ML team on the field with the resources available.

Even if the chances of the ML being competitive are slim. When you take that approach you end up not getting appropriate value for guys like Britton & Machado. When you don't really attempt to re-sign guys like Machado (and more recently) Schoop in their arb years, you're not planning for the future. To me that is irresponsible.

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2 hours ago, foxfield said:

 

 

Regarding Roch...I like him.   He is funny and he knows the game pretty well.  I think he gets zero inside info and I think the dysfunction of the O's helps that.  I see him sorta as one of us, who gets paid to post everyday. ;) 

 

Dan, is a first class GM.  Orioles still a model of dysfunction, with a bunch of really smart people who want to win.  God bless Potter, and I like our roster better this year than any year since 2012.

 

And don't look now, but even if we lost Manny, Britton and everyone else the future looks pretty bright.  I have said since the middle of last season, that the ultimate grade of DD would require a pretty strong offseason.  Well, this rotation is not Palmer McNally Cuellar and Dobson, but it is one hell of a lot better on paper than the rotation that posted the worst ERA in Oriole history.

Congrats to the Orioles, kids get in free, old man really trying to win, could Manny be next?

Damn, it's like Christmas morning, I have been so despondent and now I cant wait!!!!!!

Please, join me for a cup of bright Orange Kool Aid!


 

You mean since 2014? :) That was the year we got Cruz.  2012 we signed Betemit, Endy Chavez, traded for Hammel and Lindstrom, signed Ayala... 

Anyway... Orange Kool Aid cheers!

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I think this move is awesome not only for 2018, but for 2019 as well. Even with Jones, Machado, Brach and Britton all Free Agents at year's end, I don't think the roster is void of talent for 2019. There will be holes, but at least now there are 4 solid Major League starters along with Schoop, Hays, Sisco, Santander, Mancini, Mullins, Stewart and others.

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