Which outcome would you prefer?

[Frobby]

I know many people are going to say that if we’re going to stink, we need to really stink as badly as possible to get the best draft pick.    But I don’t know if I can endure a whole season of playing like we’ve played so far.    I know there’s probably some happy medium where we play a little better but still finish last, but putting that to one side, would you prefer that we continue playing sub-.333 baseball and get the top pick, or that we play respectably from here (.500) and end up with the 6th pick or so?     If those are the two choices, which do you choose?

[Redskins Rick]

4 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I know many people are going to say that if we’re going to stink, we need to really stink as badly as possible to get the best draft pick.    But I don’t know if I can endure a whole season of playing like we’ve played so far.    I know there’s probably some happy medium where we play a little better but still finish last, but putting that to one side, would you prefer that we continue playing sub-.333 baseball and get the top pick, or that we play respectably from here (.500) and end up with the 6th pick or so?     If those are the two choices, which do you choose?

If you are sub-par .333 baseball, then you need more bodies, then just the #1 selection. Which isn't even a sure thing either. If you go by the metrics.

[Roll Tide]

2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I know many people are going to say that if we’re going to stink, we need to really stink as badly as possible to get the best draft pick.    But I don’t know if I can endure a whole season of playing like we’ve played so far.    I know there’s probably some happy medium where we play a little better but still finish last, but putting that to one side, would you prefer that we continue playing sub-.333 baseball and get the top pick, or that we play respectably from here (.500) and end up with the 6th pick or so?     If those are the two choices, which do you choose?

I said the worst outcome. But here’s why... If they make the right decision and trade alll of the veteran assets the team results will likely keep them at this level as they learn at the majors.

If they keep this group intact and they play .500 ball the rest of the way they will have made the wrong decision.

I don’t like losing but I hate not having a commitment to the right direction to take.

[Moose Milligan]

There's no reason for them to play .500 ball.  

I stomached 14 straight years of terrible baseball, I can stomach another few months of this.  

Now, I've said it before a million times, I'll say it here again:  I don't trust this franchise to do anything correctly, especially drafting and developing.  If they are going to continue to shoot themselves in the foot and not sign international FA's from the Dominican and other South American countries, they need all the help they can get in the draft.  

I look at it as if there's a consensus #1 pick next year, they have less of a chance to screw it up.  

[Es4M11]

Tank for #1. This season is a complete dumpster fire whether they win a few more meaningless games or not. Might as well get a nice consolation prize.

[Frobby]

4 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

I said the worst outcome. But here’s why... If they make the right decision and trade alll of the veteran assets the team results will likely keep them at this level as they learn at the majors.

If they keep this group intact and they play .500 ball the rest of the way they will have made the wrong decision.

I don’t like losing but I hate not having a commitment to the right direction to take.

Seems to me that oftentimes when a bad team has a sell-off, they actually do better (or at least, no worse) after the sell-off.    For example, the 2000 O’s were 46-58 at the trade deadline when they traded Surhoff, Clark, Bordick, Timlin, C. Johnson and perhaps some others I can’t think of now.    They went 28-30 the rest of the way.

While they weren’t a bad team, the 2016 Yankees were 52-52 before the deadline, and after trading Chapman, Miller, Beltran and McCann, went 32-26 the rest of the way.   

[glenn__davis]

Not to ride the fence, but honestly between the 2 choices I don't really care.  At this point the losses aren't particularly important, and I don't care enough about the difference between the 1st and 6th overall picks.  I guess if forced to choose I'd take the 2nd option, because there are some guys that will be here beyond this year and if we're playing better it likely means they're playing better.  Bundy, Gausman, Cobb, Sisco, Mancini, shoot I'll even throw Wynns and Hess in there - it would be encouraging for the future to see those guys performing at a high level.

[Aglets]

We know the Orioles need to sell off parts.

Duquette knows we need to sell off parts.

The 'man upstairs' is always the WC in these types of situations.

So I look at it as the more games we lose the better chance that Duquette will make trades to help the future of our franchise that Angelos will actually approve.

[orioles119]

Let the losses mount.

[DirtyBird]

 

5 minutes ago, glenn__davis said:

Not to ride the fence, but honestly between the 2 choices I don't really care.  At this point the losses aren't particularly important, and I don't care enough about the difference between the 1st and 6th overall picks.  I guess if forced to choose I'd take the 2nd option, because there are some guys that will be here beyond this year and if we're playing better it likely means they're playing better.  Bundy, Gausman, Cobb, Sisco, Mancini, shoot I'll even throw Wynns and Hess in there - it would be encouraging for the future to see those guys performing at a high level.

This. .500 would be great, if we trade Manny, Brach, Britton, etc. and get solid production out of the rotation (who will be here next season), improvement out of Sisco and Mancini, possibly calling up Mullins and Stewart.

[Hank Scorpio]

28 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I know many people are going to say that if we’re going to stink, we need to really stink as badly as possible to get the best draft pick.    But I don’t know if I can endure a whole season of playing like we’ve played so far.    I know there’s probably some happy medium where we play a little better but still finish last, but putting that to one side, would you prefer that we continue playing sub-.333 baseball and get the top pick, or that we play respectably from here (.500) and end up with the 6th pick or so?     If those are the two choices, which do you choose?

I'm already not paying a lot of attention.

So whatever. My ideal scenario from here on out is they clean house, bring in some fresh youth and mix it in with some of their own and THEN go .500 from here on out.  

[Redskins Rick]

12 minutes ago, Es4M11 said:

Tank for #1. This season is a complete dumpster fire whether they win a few more meaningless games or not. Might as well get a nice consolation prize.

do you trust this FO to make the best #1 draft selection?

[ChrisP]

2 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

do you trust this FO to make the best #1 draft selection?

Short answer, Yes. I think they've done a real nice job the past few years. 

Go for #1..

[Aglets]

3 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

do you trust this FO to make the best #1 draft selection?

Well 2/3 of the 3-headed GM monster are likely gone right?   Not even sure who will be drafting for us in '19.

[Orioles0615]

I want historic bad. I don't want the Front Office sitting and be like "oh we just had a rough year, we will bounce back, and we weren't that bad, and under performing, blah blah." No lame excuse, if they finish  historically bad and Chris Davis has the worst season ever the FO should know how bad the team really is.