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2 minutes ago, vab said:

Why is this a story? I know there was some speculation over the winter that Angelos was stripping the club down for sale before the Cobb and Cashner signings. Was there anything more concrete than that?

I think Richard just wanted to let the Orioles fans know to give up hope.

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3 minutes ago, vab said:

Why is this a story? I know there was some speculation over the winter that Angelos was stripping the club down for sale before the Cobb and Cashner signings. Was there anything more concrete than that?

There are always many false/fake rumors floating around, why would now be any different?

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15 minutes ago, TonySoprano said:

Actually, you can own both as long as they are in the same city/market.  Case in point, Peter Angelos actually tried to buy the Washington Redskins in 1998 and 1999.

Baltimore Sun, April 1999 http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1999-04-13/sports/9904130006_1_blind-bidding-majority-owner-peter-angelos-bidding-process

Oh my God, could you imagine if Angelos had bought the Redskins? Well, we really don't have to because the guy who bought the Redskins is basically the Peter Angelos of the NFL. Redskins-Orioles fans - 365 days of pain every year.

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Did anyone ever think the team was for sale?  I sure didn't.  Seems apparent to me that the table is set for J his wife, and then sons to take over the team when PGA passes.

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22 minutes ago, TonySoprano said:

Actually, you can own both as long as they are in the same city/market.  Case in point, Peter Angelos actually tried to buy the Washington Redskins in 1998 and 1999.

Baltimore Sun, April 1999 http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1999-04-13/sports/9904130006_1_blind-bidding-majority-owner-peter-angelos-bidding-process

Why would the NFL want an owner that will go to court to sue the league?    I think Peter cooked his goose on him ever owning an  NFL team when he sued MLB.

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2 hours ago, Frobby said:

It’s good to have friends who have enough money to consider buying a baseball team.    I don’t have any friends like that.     

Didn't your dad once consider doing that for you? I was already to apply as minister of propaganda if it had come true. 

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2 minutes ago, weams said:

Didn't your dad once consider doing that for you? I was already to apply as minister of propaganda if it had come true. 

As I mentioned, I was with my dad at a Nats game the day the Lerners bought the team.   We were sitting in the third row and all of a sudden the Lerner entourage arrives and sits right in front of us, including Ted and several of his kids, and they’re all giddy.    I turned to my dad and said, “so Dad, how come you never bought me a baseball team?”

Would’ve been nice.   

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3 minutes ago, esmd said:

The notion of Steve Bisciotti, Kevin Plank, Cal Ripken, or anyone else not named Angelos owning the Orioles anytime in the foreseeable future is just that - a dream.

Unless the have the rights to Portlandia or Mexico City. 

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3 hours ago, vab said:

Oh my God, could you imagine if Angelos had bought the Redskins? Well, we really don't have to because the guy who bought the Redskins is basically the Peter Angelos of the NFL. Redskins-Orioles fans - 365 days of pain every year.

Different kinds of ownership (Snyder has kept his wallet wide open), same results.

3 hours ago, wildcard said:

Why would the NFL want an owner that will go to court to sue the league?    I think Peter cooked his goose on him ever owning an  NFL team when he sued MLB.

Al Davis was owner of the Raiders until he died.  The NFL wasn't afraid of a litigious owner.  Anyway, I linked to the entire article.  Note the last sentence

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Angelos said he's also considering the possibility of adding minority partners if he decides to make another bid.

Put another way, Angelos initially put up $625M and it was all out of his pocket.  The team sold for $800M, a record at the time, and it included the stadium, which at that time had 91,000 seats and was only in use for 2 seasons.  Angelos didn't think the ROI was there.  Today, Forbes estimates the franchise to be worth around $3.1B or almost 4X the original cost.

4 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:

Hey, if Under Armour tanks how are people in Maryland going to dress themselves?

I'm sure they'll figure it out in Essex ?

 

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2 hours ago, Redskins Rick said:

A damn good writer too. Not to the level of Boswell, but then again, who is?

A lot of people would say Joe Posnanski.  Not me.  He can't hold a candle to Boswell.

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