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2 hours ago, Sessh said:

Baltimore city deserves the reputation it has. There have even been instances of corrupt cops robbing law-abiding citizens and drug dealers alike. Most of the nasty stuff is in West Baltimore, but it's bad enough to give the whole city a bad reputation. It doesn't help that much of the city is populated with dilapidated, boarded up buildings and row houses with spray paint all over them. More and more people don't trust the police and that reaches far outside Baltimore and this state. I'm not a criminal and have never had more than a speeding ticket and I don't trust the cops either. They are out of control especially in places like Baltimore and Chicago. I read this long, but interesting article from last year about the state of Baltimore city and not much has changed.

If it was just the riots as an isolated incident, I don't think it would be a big problem. For Baltimore city, it just piles on top of everything else. A few places aside, BC is a dump that brings a higher chance of being involved in a crime than almost anywhere else in the country. That's just the facts. Baltimore city has had this reputation for as long as I can remember. It's not a new thing. Being harassed by homeless people for money is unsettling especially when they walk right up to your car as soon as you park. I've seen people smoking crack in broad daylight in Fells Point just walking around like it's nothing. He was offering some to others as well and there was a police SUV about 20 yards away as well. I stopped going down there years ago. Almost everyone I knew from down there had been a victim of a violent crime or robbery at least once and these were just normal people. It's been terrible down there for a long time. The city deserves the bad rep it gets, all of it IMO.

Your sweeping statements about about police are absurd and I'm embarrassed for you. The people who are out of control in Baltimore and Chicago are the drug dealers and gangs, but yeah, say it's all the cops. Do us all a favor and next time you need us, don't call us. Take your chances and feel safe with the good citizens of Baltimore to help you out in times of need.

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31 minutes ago, Malike said:

How is someone who's contract is over fired? 

Actually his contract ran through the end of October like most MLB management contracts do.   But he was shown the door on October 3 and is no longer in charge.  So I would say he was fired.

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30 minutes ago, Malike said:

Your sweeping statements about about police are absurd and I'm embarrassed for you. The people who are out of control in Baltimore and Chicago are the drug dealers and gangs, but yeah, say it's all the cops. Do us all a favor and next time you need us, don't call us. Take your chances and feel safe with the good citizens of Baltimore to help you out in times of need.

"Sweeping statements about cops"?

He said "There have even been instances of corrupt cops ...".   That's hardly sweeping, and undeniably true

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14 minutes ago, SteveA said:

Actually his contract ran through the end of October like most MLB management contracts do.   But he was shown the door on October 3 and is no longer in charge.  So I would say he was fired.

Even if it was end of October and he wanted to stay but they told him to clear out his desk he was fired.

 

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52 minutes ago, Malike said:

Your sweeping statements about about police are absurd and I'm embarrassed for you. The people who are out of control in Baltimore and Chicago are the drug dealers and gangs, but yeah, say it's all the cops. Do us all a favor and next time you need us, don't call us. Take your chances and feel safe with the good citizens of Baltimore to help you out in times of need.

First off, I didn't say "it's all the cops" nor did I make "sweeping statements" about anyone. I provided links to the things I was referring to. You're creating strawmen in an emotional tirade and attacking them. Nice that you would reinforce my feelings about it all by saying "don't call us next time you need us" in the midst of your rage as if you would choose not to help someone based on a difference of opinion or viewpoint with that person. All of that sounds far more embarrassing for you if you really believe that and all over a bunch of things I never even said. Sounds exactly why I don't trust the police as much as I should.

Anyway, since someone eluded to a thread being locked for talking about Baltimore City (which I was not aware of), so I will cease discussion on the topic now. I blame the Mesas for taking their time signing with someone.

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3 hours ago, Sessh said:

Baltimore city deserves the reputation it has. There have even been instances of corrupt cops robbing law-abiding citizens and drug dealers alike. Most of the nasty stuff is in West Baltimore, but it's bad enough to give the whole city a bad reputation. It doesn't help that much of the city is populated with dilapidated, boarded up buildings and row houses with spray paint all over them. More and more people don't trust the police and that reaches far outside Baltimore and this state. I'm not a criminal and have never had more than a speeding ticket and I don't trust the cops either. They are out of control especially in places like Baltimore and Chicago. I read this long, but interesting article from last year about the state of Baltimore city and not much has changed.

If it was just the riots as an isolated incident, I don't think it would be a big problem. For Baltimore city, it just piles on top of everything else. A few places aside, BC is a dump that brings a higher chance of being involved in a crime than almost anywhere else in the country. That's just the facts. Baltimore city has had this reputation for as long as I can remember. It's not a new thing. Being harassed by homeless people for money is unsettling especially when they walk right up to your car as soon as you park. I've seen people smoking crack in broad daylight in Fells Point just walking around like it's nothing. He was offering some to others as well and there was a police SUV about 20 yards away as well. I stopped going down there years ago. Almost everyone I knew from down there had been a victim of a violent crime or robbery at least once and these were just normal people. It's been terrible down there for a long time. The city deserves the bad rep it gets, all of it IMO.

In Fells Point? I was just there Go down to Canton for breakfast on a Sunday and eat at  Attwaters or Iron Rooster. 45 to one hour wait at Iron Rooster today .Mostly young folks ,some with young kids and dogs all around  Very family friendly. Go down near the Waterfront Marriott and Four Seasons and see all the building going on around it and all the tourists  Tourism is near it's high again over the last three years. The city is hurt by being the murder capital but 95% of that is gang and drug related in pockets.Those pockets are some of the worst in the country unfortunately. Hurts Baltimore's image greatly.

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Why the insistence that he was fired? The Orioles opted to not negotiate a renewal. That’s not a firing. They paid him through the end of his contract and did not renew him. Did they fire Adam Jones? Actually firing Duquette in the last month of his long term contract would have been universally (and rightly) blasted as vindictive and petty. I’ve never been a DD fan, but this bothers me. 

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