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Greg Pappas

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I think that is the value of analytics, you determine the value of your player and figure out the best scenario to get maximum value. If no one offers you the value that you determine the player to be worth then you hold onto the player and perhaps try to improve him if possible to make his value more marketable.

i love the hiring of Elias and it has renewed interest in the Orioles for me. I could care less if they lose 100 games the next two years as long as they have a good plan and stick to it. I will go out and watch the team and enjoy myself regardless of the outcome of the game knowing we are moving toward having a competitive team.

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Everyone should be available. But frankly not too many have much value right now. 

Bundy seems like the classic buy low kind of guy that somebody is going to think they can fix with a fresh start. Luckily we are now in a position where we can give our own guys a fresh start. I’d rather try that than sell low. 

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3 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Here is a list of transactions HOU made right after Luhnow got hired in 2012,

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/HOU/2012-transactions.shtml

Not exactly a ton of trades right away and they had some good trade chips. The big move was drafting Correa with the top pick. 

+1, no rush to trade anyone. We don't have anyone like Britton 2017 at obvious peak value. Maybe Givens or Bleier? Wait and see if Bundy and Mancini rebuood value, otherwise focus 100% on the draft. He drafted Bregman too.

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Were I in his shoes, I'd get rid of all of them before spring training. The worst thing that could happen would be to get off to a lucky start and get peoples' hopes up. We have a chance of having the first pick in the draft two years in a row. They can't afford to screw that up by winning 67 games next year.

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I'd make it a priority to trade Trumbo simply for the roster flexibility and to cut salary. Even if that means attaching international money or packaging him with Bundy or Givens.  That gets Mancini out of LF and gives them room to see what Stewart or someone else can do in LF. 

Everyone else is in wait and see territory.  Hope they build value for the deadline. 

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3 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Here is a list of transactions HOU made right after Luhnow got hired in 2012,

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/HOU/2012-transactions.shtml

Not exactly a ton of trades right away and they had some good trade chips. The big move was drafting Correa with the top pick. 

Elias was in charge of Amateur scouting. Unlikely he had much to do with trades of MLB players at that time.

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The reality is that other than salary relief, there is very little left to trade.  Of course everyone should be available and the key will be making good choices to gain future value.  My eyes are wide open and from my view, the primary work will be below the radar building out a plan and getting all corners of the organization pulling in the same direction.  That's not glossy and it's not gonna make a lot of headlines, but that is the work that has the best chance to move the dial down the road.  

That doesn't mean there won't be moves but off field things like MASN, and of course Chris Davis' contract, international scouting and the future development team are all more important in my mind than say...maximizing Bundy's value in a trade now or in July. 

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