Hyde: New O’s Manager

[Frobby]

6 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

Angelos the asshole, wanted Tex to give the Orioles a hometown discount as the Md Boy coming home to play.

Nationals outbid the Orioles, and then the Yankees swooped in.

Whatever.    Tex was overpaid (8/$180 mm for 20.5 rWAR).  It didn’t make sense to match what the Yankees offered, regardless of how it got there.   

[wildbillhiccup]

7 minutes ago, 24fps said:

Because he's not Mike Wallace from 1982 therefore he's a mouthpiece for the Politburo?  Kinda binary don't you think?  I agree that he's not the first source to look to for anything breaking or investigative but to suggest that he's thoroughly corrupt simply doesn't follow and isn't warranted. 

Reporter = impartial. He's as much of a reporter as a person who hosts a paid infomercial for a product. You'd be better off using a term like public relations to describe his role. 

[wildbillhiccup]

7 minutes ago, Frobby said:

It’s not like any of the other local media broke this story.    

Roch's sources are who he works for. He has no "off the record" sources. I'm not knocking him for not breaking the story, I'm knocking everyone else for actually regarding him as a reporter. He's not. He's a public relations person, which is absolutely fine, but for god's sake lets just call a spade a spade. 

[Going Underground]

37 minutes ago, Frobby said:

It’s not like any of the other local media broke this story.    

Not much media in Baltimore. The Sun last month was looking for more reporters with experience to take buyouts. Encina left somewhat because of this. Roch works for MASN. Orioles run it.  Does anyone think if Roch broke the story, that Elias would be too happy with him after denying it.

[Redskins Rick]

30 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Whatever.    Tex was overpaid (8/$180 mm for 20.5 rWAR).  It didn’t make sense to match what the Yankees offered, regardless of how it got there.   

1 WAR = 8.5 million. Doesnt seam to be a bad deal.

5 years the WAR was at least 3.4 and  one of those was a 5+

206 HR, 622 RBIs, .822 Slugging.

No, not a huge overpay

 

[Number5]

24 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

Roch's sources are who he works for. He has no "off the record" sources. I'm not knocking him for not breaking the story, I'm knocking everyone else for actually regarding him as a reporter. He's not. He's a public relations person, which is absolutely fine, but for god's sake lets just call a spade a spade. 

I think maybe  a lot or the people that you classify as "reporters" are really bloggers and tweeters in search of clicks.  A true reporter has certain responsibilities, including confirmation with another source.  The water has been very much muddied as far as how we get and perceive "news."  

[Redskins Rick]

2 minutes ago, Going Underground said:

Not much media in Baltimore. The Sun last month was looking for more reporters with experience to take buyouts. Encina left somewhat because of this. Roch works for MASN. Orioles run it.  Does anyone think if Roch broke the story, that Elias would be too happy with him after denying it.

The Sun through the years, hasn't even the team the coverage it deserves.

None of them could match Boswell as the Post's coverage of the team was so much better.

 

[Redskins Rick]

Just now, Number5 said:

I think maybe  a lot or the people that you classify as "reporters" are really bloggers and tweeters in search of clicks.  A true reporter has certain responsibilities, including confirmation with another source.  The water has been very much muddied as far as how we get and perceive "news."  

But there are true reporters out on tweeter, not getting their stuff validated before running off their tweets, just so they can be FIRST.

[Number5]

2 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

But there are true reporters out on tweeter, not getting their stuff validated before running off their tweets, just so they can be FIRST.

Exactly.  That's not true responsible reporting.  That's my point.

[Frobby]

1 minute ago, Redskins Rick said:

1 WAR = 8.5 million. Doesnt seam to be a bad deal.

5 years the WAR was at least 3.4 and  one of those was a 5+

206 HR, 622 RBIs, .822 Slugging.

No, not a huge overpay

 

1 WAR = $8.0 mm today.    But when Tex was signed back in 2009, 1 WAR = $6.4 mm.   Fangraphs (different flavor of WAR) pegs his value for the 8 years at $123 mm.   There have been worse deals, but this was definitely an overpay — the type the Yankees can afford, but we can’t.    

[Ohfan67]

The hall of fame thread may be the only recent  thread that didn’t  end up being about Roch or Brady. Jeez. Roch is getting more discussion than the new manager. 

[Ohfan67]

48 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

Angelos the asshole, wanted Tex to give the Orioles a hometown discount as the Md Boy coming home to play.

Nationals outbid the Orioles, and then the Yankees swooped in.

Hey Rick, That language and those kind of insults are not cool on OH. 

[TonySoprano]

I went back through old threads.  This Friday, December 14, will be the 10 year anniversary of the Steelers@Ravens game that was rumored to have one Mark Teixeira in attendance.   

On 12/14/2008 at 3:21 PM, Jimbo81 said:

I just saw PA in a car with police escort on Russel st. heading toward the stadium. He had 3 passengers in the car with him. Non of them were Tex...

 

[clapdiddy]

2 minutes ago, TonySoprano said:

I went back through old threads.  This Friday, December 14, will be the 10 year anniversary of the Steelers@Ravens game that was rumored to have one Mark Teixeira in attendance.   

In celebration, we should all join forces and get a skybox for the Ravens' game this weekend! 

[Redskins Rick]

12 minutes ago, Frobby said:

1 WAR = $8.0 mm today.    But when Tex was signed back in 2009, 1 WAR = $6.4 mm.   Fangraphs (different flavor of WAR) pegs his value for the 8 years at $123 mm.   There have been worse deals, but this was definitely an overpay — the type the Yankees can afford, but we can’t.    

Ok, very good point about the WAR value.