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They have to  be better then last year.Only 2 teams since 1962 have lost more then 115 games.Orioles are now the third.Road losses were 62.Most road losses ever in the AL was 64.The Mets won 40 games in 1962 and 51 in 1963. I think 60 is certainly possible and maybe a few more.The won lost record was historically bad last year.Hard to repeat a season like that.

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4 hours ago, Going Underground said:

They have to  be better then last year.Only 2 teams since 1962 have lost more then 115 games.Orioles are now the third.Road losses were 62.Most road losses ever in the AL was 64.The Mets won 40 games in 1962 and 51 in 1963. I think 60 is certainly possible and maybe a few more.The won lost record was historically bad last year.Hard to repeat a season like that.

Teams with consecutive sub-.300 records, and how long it took to get to .500:

'41-'42 Phillies, 1949
'15-16 Philadelphia A's, 1925
1897-98 Browns (confusing, but this is the modern Cardinals), 1899*
1894-96 Louisville Colonels, never- contracted after 1899 season where they went 75-77
1882-83 AA Orioles, 1887
1876-77 Reds, 1878
 

* Yes, the 1898-99 St. Louis Browns/Cardinals improved by 45 games.  But they did it by underhanded means.  They were owned by a syndicate that also owned the Cleveland Spiders.  After the '98 season all the good players in the syndicate were moved to St. Louis, so they won 84 games and the Spiders infamously went 20-134.  So what I'm saying is that the Angelos boys need to buy the Pirates or the Royals or something and transfer all the good players to Baltimore and send Chris Davis the other way.

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On 3/21/2019 at 10:53 AM, now said:

 

Why Not ???

 

1988: lllll 54-107

1989: lllll 87-75

 

 

 

On 3/21/2019 at 12:24 PM, OFFNY said:

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My assertion from another thread is that the 2019 Orioles will get mathematically eliminated from the division title on the next-to-the-last day of the season by the eventual AL East division champions (the Red Sox) on their homefield ........ just like the 1989 Orioles did, when they dropped a 4-3 decision to the eventual AL East division champion Blue Jays at the SkyDome in late September of 1989.

 

https://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1989/B09300TOR1989.htm

 

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Speaking of the Red Sox ........

 

Chris Sale, Red Sox Agree on 5-Year Extension

(By Jason Mastrodonato) 

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/03/22/reports-chris-sale-red-sox-nearing-deal/

 

 

 

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On 3/21/2019 at 11:33 AM, esmd said:

I think anything more than 81 wins and somehow being a .500 team or better would be a pretty big surprise and drastically exceed expectations.  I'm probably more bullish on them than many others, I dunno, I'm just sensing a vibe that some of these young players might step up, and they might not be as bad as we think they will be.  I don't think they'll be .500, but I could see them with somewhere between 70 and 75 wins.  I dunno, maybe it'll prove to be a mirage, but pretty much EVERYTHING had to go wrong last year to get the result that they did, and I expect some things this year to go better than expected.  We'll see.

There might be a little vibe about some of the young position players, but who's going to pitch? Data below sorted by IP this spring. The 2018 Orioles had the worse pitching staff in MLB. They were 27th in 2017. I think best case scenario for the 2019 staff is probably 27th or so, but the Orioles could pretty easily have the worse staff in the big leagues again. Even if a Rule 5 pick plays well and a couple of the young outfielders eventually look good later in the season, the pitching is going to really stink. There are no young pitching saviors on the immediate horizon. 

 

 Wright Jr., M BAL 1 2 3.32 7 6 0 0 21.2 26 8 8 5 5 13 .310 1.43
2  Hess, D BAL 0 2 7.50 6 4 0 0 18.0 21 15 15 7 3 12 .296 1.33
3  Bundy, D BAL 1 0 7.94 5 5 0 0 17.0 27 15 15 3 2 12 .370 1.71
4  Rogers, J BAL 0 0 4.20 7 1 0 0 15.0 16 8 7 4 5 7 .271 1.40
5  Cashner, A BAL 1 0 6.08 4 4 0 0 13.1 15 9 9 2 4 13 .278 1.43
6  Ramirez, Y BAL 1 0 5.11 5 1 0 1 12.1 12 7 7 5 2 13 .240 1.14
7  Means, J BAL 0 0 5.06 6 2 0 0 10.2 11 8 6 2 4 12 .250 1.41
8  Cobb, A BAL 0 1 8.31 3 3 0 0 8.2 9 8 8 1 2 9 .250 1.27
9  Araujo, P BAL 1 1 5.40 8 0 0 0 8.1 11 6 5 2 3 9 .324 1.68
9  Fry, P BAL 1 0 0.00 7 0 0 0 8.1 4 0 0 0 5 4 .148 1.08
9  Yacabonis, J BAL 1 1 5.40 5 0 0 2 8.1 9 6 5 1 5 9 .273 1.68
12  Scott, T BAL 1 0 9.00 9 0 0 1 8.0 9 8 8 0 6 5 .281 1.88
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On ‎3‎/‎22‎/‎2019 at 10:02 AM, Can_of_corn said:

So you think they won't sign this season's top pick?

Come June I'm thinking the Orioles still go with Adley as the 2019 #1 pick... some people might be more for Witt Jr. but either or, I would be happy as both have tremendous talent. I know the Adley pick brings back all the Wieters hype.

I would think Elias and Co. do whatever it takes to sign the top pick.

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7 minutes ago, weams said:

https://www.si.com/mlb/2019/03/27/baltimore-orioles-season-preview

For them to put Mancini in leftfield and Smith at DH made me question this from the beginning.  It seemed slap-dash and already outdated with mentions of Yaz and others.  They hate Davis and love Mancini (including his defense, or at least that's respectable now) and Givens and there is not much else there.

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On 3/22/2019 at 3:12 PM, OFFNY said:

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Speaking of the Red Sox ........

 

Chris Sale, Red Sox Agree on 5-Year Extension

(By Jason Mastrodonato) 

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/03/22/reports-chris-sale-red-sox-nearing-deal/

 

 

 

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Chris Sale Hit Hard By Mariners: Lasts Just 3 Innings on Red Sox Opening Day

(By Matthew Geagan) 

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/03/28/chris-sale-red-sox-opening-day-mariners-mlb-alex-cora/

 

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