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https://blogs.fangraphs.com/john-means-changeup-means-business/

 

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He went unmentioned inour Orioles top prospects list coming into this season, for instance. Because there weren’t meany extensive reports on Means available on the internet, I asked Luke Siler of Orioles Hangout for his assessment of the left-hander as a minor leaguer.

"Before the improvements, Means was that typical Triple-A depth player who performed well enough to keep fans intrigued but not well enough to merit an MLB role. The profile was a fastball topping at 92, but sitting more 89~91 mph, a loopy below average curveball, a fringe average slider and an average changeup with average command… nothing was exciting but he mixes pitches well and can land them all for strikes."

 

 
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So I have a question about means his performance. One of the comments at fangraphs was a question about how many teams has Means seen a second time, and how has he done against those teams the second time? Is the difference in performance significant in those second appearances?

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1 minute ago, Philip said:

So I have a question about means his performance. One of the comments at fangraphs was a question about how many teams has Means seen a second time, and how has he done against those teams the second time? Is the difference in performance significant in those second appearances?

Take a look for yourself: https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=meansjo01&t=p&year=2019

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So I have a question about means his performance. One of the comments at fangraphs was a question about how many teams has Means seen a second time, and how has he done against those teams the second time? Is the difference in performance significant in those second appearances?Is the difference in performance significant in those second appearances?

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So I have a question about means his performance. One of the comments at fangraphs was a question about how many teams has Means seen a second time, and how has he done against those teams the second time? Is the difference in performance significant in those second appearances?

Sometimes you can fool the league once, but after the book gets out (in Means’s case, his changeup usage, location, etc) hitter’s do better. It’s easy to get exposed at this level.

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One of the masterminds behind Means’ new changeup usage came from P3 staff instructor Austin Meine, who looked at available data online and decided to focus on the pitch. Another was Orioles minor league pitching coordinator Chris Holt, who was brought over to Baltimore from Houston by general manager Mike Elias. This is a classic case of recognizing a talent and working to maximize it – and it’s worked well so far.

Thanks, Elias!  Off to a good start here.

 

EDIT:  Props to Luke for getting some national publicity!  

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