Rule five eligibility?

[HowAboutThat]

I know this has been mentioned here often but I couldn’t find it, and I looked for this info at Fangraphs and BBR but didn’t find it so I’m asking the crowd:

Which Orioles(pitchers and position players) are rule 5 eligible this fall?

Where can one find this info for the 30 teams?

[weams]

NO one who gets protected on a 40 man roster is rule five eligible.  So it is way to early for that. We don’t know what we don’t know. 

[mdbdotcom]

1 minute ago, weams said:

NO one who gets protected on a 40 man roster is rule five eligible.  So it is way to early for that. We don’t know what we don’t know. 

I think he's asking which O's minor leaguers will be eligible for the Rule 5 draft if they are not put on the 40-man roster after the season ends.

[weams]

2 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

I think he's asking which O's minor leaguers will be eligible for the Rule 5 draft if they are not put on the 40-man roster after the season ends.

Different question. Thanks. 

[bobmc]

1 minute ago, weams said:

Different question. Thanks. 

Discussed at length here by @MurphDogg and Co. @Philip

 

[MurphDogg]

Here is the Fangraphs page that lists all the Rule 5 eligible years (and options remaining!). Fangraphs added that the day after I wrote my post linked above, which I actually made by looking at minor league rosters and draft dates, not knowing about RosterResource, the site that Fangraphs integrated into their site. It will be much either to keep track of these things in the future with that Fangraphs link.

[wildcard]

24 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

Here is the Fangraphs page that lists all the Rule 5 eligible years (and options remaining!). Fangraphs added that the day after I wrote my post linked above, which I actually made by looking at minor league rosters and draft dates, not knowing about RosterResource, the site that Fangraphs integrated into their site. It will be much either to keep track of these things in the future with that Fangraphs link.

Don't see Christian Alvarado.

[MurphDogg]

Just now, wildcard said:

Don't see Christian Alvarado.

Yeah, they don't have everyone. You can still use the old method of figuring out when a guy first played and if he was under 19 when signed, counting five Rule 5 drafts forward to determine eligibility (if he was over 19, count forward four drafts). Alvarado is Rule 5 eligible, and in fact has been eligible each of the previous three years.

[HowAboutThat]

59 minutes ago, weams said:

NO one who gets protected on a 40 man roster is rule five eligible.  So it is way to early for that. We don’t know what we don’t know. 

That’s not what I asked. I am aware that no one on the 40 man is eligible what I’m asking is who will be eligible for the rule five draft. That is the guys who spent the appropriate number of years in the minors without being added.

[HowAboutThat]

56 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

I think he's asking which O's minor leaguers will be eligible for the Rule 5 draft if they are not put on the 40-man roster after the season ends.

Yes

[HowAboutThat]

48 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

Here is the Fangraphs page that lists all the Rule 5 eligible years (and options remaining!). Fangraphs added that the day after I wrote my post linked above, which I actually made by looking at minor league rosters and draft dates, not knowing about RosterResource, the site that Fangraphs integrated into their site. It will be much either to keep track of these things in the future with that Fangraphs link.

Thank you, that is exactly what I was looking for. I look for that at Fangraphs but I don’t know why I couldn’t find it

[HowAboutThat]

57 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

Here is the Fangraphs page that lists all the Rule 5 eligible years (and options remaining!). Fangraphs added that the day after I wrote my post linked above, which I actually made by looking at minor league rosters and draft dates, not knowing about RosterResource, the site that Fangraphs integrated into their site. It will be much either to keep track of these things in the future with that Fangraphs link.

I just looked at the page you shared, and thank you very much, but it refers to the 2018 rule five draft and not the upcoming one?

[Redskins Rick]

3 minutes ago, Philip said:

I just looked at the page you shared, and thank you very much, but it refers to the 2018 rule five draft and not the upcoming one?

Its too early to have the 2019 list available.

 

[MurphDogg]

11 minutes ago, Philip said:

I just looked at the page you shared, and thank you very much, but it refers to the 2018 rule five draft and not the upcoming one?

I think you are misreading it. Look next to Mountcastle, under Rule 5, it says Dec '19, which is when he would be eligible if he isn't added to the 40-man roster by then (he will be). Above that is Martin Cervenka, which just says R5, which means he was eligible last season (and will continue to be eligible until added to the 40-man roster).

All the players that have "Dec '19" (or "R5") next to their name need to be added this December or will be eligible for the upcoming Rule 5 draft. Those that have "Dec '20" will need to be added after the 2020 season, and so forth.

[HowAboutThat]

4 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

I think you are misreading it. Look next to Mountcastle, under Rule 5, it says Dec '19, which is when he would be eligible if he isn't added by then (he will be). Above that is Martin Cervenka, which just says R5, which means he was eligible last season (and will continue to be eligible until added to the 40 man roster).

All the players that have "Dec '19" (or "R5") next to their name need to be added this December or will be eligible for the upcoming Rule 5 draft. Those that have "Dec '20" will need to be added after the 2020 season, and so forth.

 All right, thank you very much. This is going to be increasingly interesting as December approaches, so I nominate you to be in charge of all rule five queries. 

This includes locating interesting guys from deep farm systems who might be left off the 40 man because of a roster crunch and not because of a lack of ability. I would imagine that will be the case in Houston and in New York at least.