The team I will be watching in 2020

[wildcard]

The soon this team gets to the majors the soon the O's become a contender.

Catcher- Adley Rutschman-  Could play defense and call games in the majors today.  What he has to be refined is his hit tool.  I think he begins the season in Delmarva.  Whenever he shows at least 100 AB where he hits well he moves up.   He has 5 months to get through 4 minor league level.    If he does that he begins  in AAA and is promoted to the majors a month into the 2021 in the season.  If he take longer to hit as any level it will take him longer to get to the majors.  Its up to him.

First Base/DH -  Ryan Mountcastle.  Since the O's will have Santander, Hays and Diaz in the majors when they contend there is little reason to put Mountcastle in left field for a year.   He should refined his defense at 1B.  He begins 2020 at Norfolk and is promoted to he majors  a month later. 

Second Base - Adam Hall -   He begins the season at Frederick.  I think he spend at full season at each level.  ETA for the major:  2023

Shortstop - Richie Martin  - I don't know if he has the bat to be successful in the majors but I like his defense.  Defensive metric suck, so I throw them out the window.   I think he plays all season at Norfolk   He may even play a month at 2021 at  AAA.  If he hits he is in the majors after that.

Third Base -  TBD

Left Field - Anthony Santander - With  the O's.

Center Field - Austin Hays-  With the O's.

Right Field - Yusniel  Diaz - Plays all season with Norfolk.   Is promoted to the O's one month into the 2021 season.

DH/1B  -  Trey Mancini -  He will play right field for the O's in 2020. But he will be 1B/DH  a month into the 2021 season.

Starters:

Grayson Rodriguez -  Begins the season at Frederick and is promoted to Bowie in late June.  Starts 2021 in Norfolk and is promoted to the majors in July.  He has to do well at each level for this to happen.   Why the rush?   If all goes well Rutschman, Martin, Santander, Hays, Diaz, Mancini, Means. Harvey, Kremer, Baumann will all be in the majors.  There  is not reason to hold him back.

DL Hall -  Play all season at Bowie in 2020.  Plays all season at AAA in 2021.  Call to the majors a month into 2022.

John Means- With the O's.

Michael Baumann -  Plays all 2020 at Norfolk.   Called to the majors a month into 2021.

Dean Kremer - Plays all 2020 at Norfolk.   Called to the majors a month into 2021.

Keegan Akin -  Begins 2020 AT Norfolk. Called to the  majors in June 2020.

Zac Lowther - Begins 2020 in Norfolk.  Called to the majors in July 2020 if pitching well.

Hunter Harvey  -  With the O's.

This is if all goes well, which it will not.   But I will be rooting for them to progress to become the O's next contending team.

 

[Can_of_corn]

A couple things, you actually think they are going to play service time games with folks like Kremer and Baumann?  Or do you have another reason for predicting a month into the season?

What makes you think "Adley Rutschten" is capable of calling games at the ML level?

[wildcard]

13 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

A couple things, you actually think they are going to play service time games with folks like Kremer and Baumann?  Or do you have another reason for predicting a month into the season?

What makes you think "Adley Rutschten" is capable of calling games at the ML level?

Thanks for the spelling correction.   What I have read about Rutschman's game calling is that he is he is a quick learner with he ability to retain batters weaknesses throughout a game.   He sound amazing.  Reports are that he is great defensively and has a rocket for an arm.

As far as Baumann and Kremer,  there is no reason not to.

[Can_of_corn]

8 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Thanks for the spelling correction.   What I have read about Rutschman's game calling is that he is he is a quick learner with he ability to retain batters weaknesses throughout a game.   He sound amazing.  Reports are that he is great defensively and has a rocket for an arm.

As far as Baumann and Kremer,  there is no reason not to.

I've heard nice things as well but that doesn't mean he's ready to step behind the plate and call games in the majors in 2020.  Did he call his own games in college? 

As far as Baumann and Kremer there is no reason to, and that is the more important part.  I wish them the best of course but they are a couple of guys.  Odds are good at some point their performance (or roster restraints) will dictate they get sent down.  I know you love the idea of breaking the rules and messing with service time but these are two guys that have never sniffed a top 100 prospect list.  They will be lucky to have four year careers in ML baseball. 

Are you going to advocate sending Martin down for a month to get that extra year of former Rule V goodness?

[mdbdotcom]

SPDD - Same Post, Different Day

[Can_of_corn]

9 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

SPDD - Same Post, Different Day

Him, me, or both?

I'm guessing both.

[mdbdotcom]

8 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Him, me, or both?

I'm guessing both.

I was referring to the original post. Can't really expect any of the responses to it to be particularly new or insightful.

[Roll Tide]

36 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

I was referring to the original post. Can't really expect any of the responses to it to be particularly new or insightful.

I don’t worry about any of these guy until get here and perform. 
 

The Orioles last 35+ years of organizational player development has been dreadful. You can Almost count the impact guys after Cal on 1 hand (not counting guys we traded for).

Boddicker, Olson, Bedard, Machado, Schoop, Wieters, Finley, Harnisch, Mussina, and Mancini. Perhaps McDonald but I’d argue that he and Wieters underperformed based on draft hype/position.

Did I miss anyone that is/was truly a star?

I didn’t add Means until we see what he is!

My point is None of these guys matter until they make it

 

[wildcard]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

I've heard nice things as well but that doesn't mean he's ready to step behind the plate and call games in the majors in 2020.  Did he call his own games in college? 

 

When Rutschman moved to Delmarva on Aug. 21, he went hitless in his first game, going 0-for-2 with two walks. But behind the plate, he looked like he had been with the team all year. He caught a five-pitcher two-hitter with 12 strikeouts. But beyond his physical gifts, it was how quickly he picked up a scouting report and could put it to use against Greensboro hitters that really impressed his manager Kyle Moore.

“It was awesome,” Moore said. “Justin Ramsey (Shorebirds pitching coach) went over the scouting report with him and I was really impressed how well he called a game based on some holes in the other guys’ swings that we identified. Which sometimes, when you throw nine (opponent) batters right at somebody and you’ve got a lot going on, you might not remember what you had talked about. But he did a great job. He went in on some guys where the only hole was in. We had one meeting and he got it like that. The stuff he retained so quickly was impressive.”

And while the hype and attention around him was crazy that night - his first night with a full season minor league team - Adley seemed to block it all out.

“It was refreshing to sit down and talk to him and see how cool and calm he was. Because the hype is unbelievable. I’ve never seen hype like this. They put a barricade around our cars in the parking lot. I was like, ‘Where do I park?’ But all of that said, the kid is cool and calm and that’s refreshing for me,” said Moore.

https://www.masnsports.com/steve-melewski/2019/12/for-this-player-expectations-will-be-high-in-2020.html

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2 hours ago, wildcard said:

Thanks for the spelling correction.   What I have read about Rutschman's game calling is that he is he is a quick learner with he ability to retain batters weaknesses throughout a game.   He sound amazing.  Reports are that he is great defensively and has a rocket for an arm.

As far as Baumann and Kremer,  there is no reason not to.

You don't hold back 4s and 5s

[weams]

1 hour ago, Roll Tide said:

I don’t worry about any of these guy until get here and perform. 
 

The Orioles last 35+ years of organizational player development has been dreadful. You can Almost count the impact guys after Cal on 1 hand (not counting guys we traded for).

Boddicker, Olson, Bedard, Machado, Schoop, Wieters, Finley, Harnisch, Mussina, and Mancini. Perhaps McDonald but I’d argue that he and Wieters underperformed based on draft hype/position.

Did I miss anyone that is/was truly a star?

I didn’t add Means until we see what he is!

My point is None of these guys matter until they make it

 

Any team would be thrilled to develop a Ben McDonald.

[wildcard]

2 minutes ago, weams said:

You don't hold back 4s and 5s

Both Kremer and Baumann have made up jumps in their development in the last year.  In another year they may not be 4s and 5s.   I guess time will tell.

[weams]

2 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Both Kremer and Baumann have made up jumps in their development in the last year.  In another year they may not be 4s and 5s.   I guess time will tell.

No. They are both higher than they were projected. Fours and Fives are nice. you just don't hold them back. 

[wildcard]

12 minutes ago, weams said:

No. They are both higher than they were projected. Fours and Fives are nice. you just don't hold them back. 

You don't.  I do

The O's are putting more technology, analysis and coaching into player development then we have every seen before.  I am hoping it actually helps players develop to higher levels of performance.

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, wildcard said:

You don't.  I do

NO ONE DOES.

NO TEAM DOES THIS.