Jump to content

Tracking Ex Oriole Thread

Rene88

By Rene88
in MLB

 Share

Recommended Posts

Frobby Hangout Grand Counsel

Frobby

Posted
Posted
22 minutes ago, bobmc said:

Can we subtract Ca$hner's negative rWAR as he bottoms out for the Sawx?  How much rWAR did A Miller provide?  (rhetorical - you have more on your shovel and I am just JYC).  

Miller was very valuable for the 2.5 months he was here.   I don’t want to relitigate the merits of that trade.   We got what we paid for, whether or not we paid more than we should have.   I enjoyed his short tenure as an Oriole.   

  • Upvote 1
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 4.8k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Popular Posts

Sports Guy
Sports Guy
yark14
yark14

It was just a procedural move to allow him to spend a couple extra days with his newborn: https://dodgersnation.com/dodgers-news-evan-phillips-expected-to-rejoin-team-in-pittsburgh-today/2023/04/25/

Can_of_corn
Can_of_corn

Dexter Fowler retires. Oh wait....nm....

Posted Images

Frobby Hangout Grand Counsel

Frobby

Posted
Posted
40 minutes ago, atomic said:

I don't even care about the ERod trade.  We got Miller and won the division that year.  I am only angry about Markakis related trades.  First trading for Snider and then trading for Parra all because we were too cheap to sign Markakis.  And the funny thing was at the time almost everyone on here was against signing Markakis. And then we waste all that money on Chris Davis. 

Markakis was my favorite Oriole of the last 20 years and I was very disappointed we did not re-sign him.    That said, at the time I was under the impression that the O’s were under very tight budget constraints and would have to choose among Markakis, Cruz, Hardy and Miller.    At the time, the choice to keep Hardy made sense to me.    But that sure worked out wrong.    And then the next year, after crying poor with those guys, they went and signed Davis to that crazy extension.    That combination of decisions makes no sense at all.   

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Lucky_13 Major Leaguer Rising Star

Lucky_13

Posted
Posted
47 minutes ago, atomic said:

I don't even care about the ERod trade.  We got Miller and won the division that year.  I am only angry about Markakis related trades.  First trading for Snider and then trading for Parra all because we were too cheap to sign Markakis.  And the funny thing was at the time almost everyone on here was against signing Markakis. And then we waste all that money on Chris Davis. 

This is exactly my view on it too.  I can justify the ERod trade because the Miller trade was a "go for it" move.  Heck I could have justified trading the farm for Jon Lester that year too like was rumored for a minute.  Legit shots at a World Series don't come along so often. 

But failing to find a real right fielder ever since Markakis left was unacceptable.  Only thing more unacceptable was DD trading his  best AAA starter for a rental when they struggled EVERY year to fill out a capable MLB rotation (besides 2014).  And they didn't even have to resign Markakis, there was some real risk there, but to never adequately find a replacement for seasons after was crazy. 

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
foxfield Hangout Grand Counsel

foxfield

Posted
Posted
7 hours ago, Frobby said:

It will be payback for ERod if Prado or Romero actually develop into major league players.   Rodriguez has been worth 10.6 rWAR for Boston, has won 45 games for them, and has two years of control left after this one.    Shall we count up the Orioles pitchers who have accrued 10.6 rWAR and won 45 games between 2015 and now?   Hint: there aren’t any.   

Jake Arrietta has 24.3 rWar and has won 86 games since 2013. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Posts

    • SteveA
      Wild card series roll call

      By SteveA · Posted

      So it is different from last year? Last year the games were something like 3:00, 4:30, 7:00, and 8:30.   Have they said it will be different this year???
    • gamiliel
      Wild card series roll call

      By gamiliel · Posted

      Me too. Driving 4 hours to have a father daughter date. Can't wait!
    • Sports Guy
      AL playoff picture

      By Sports Guy · Posted

      The discussion about Cle vs NYY is interesting. The Os always struggle at Cle and their BP is awesome but the starters are meh and so is the offense. I prefer to play NY. Worse pen, doesn’t run as much.  Not a bunch of contact hitters.  
    • Jammer7
      Winter 2024 40-Man Additions

      By Jammer7 · Posted

      Bautista, if he is back to his old self, would be a big addition. Dominguez and Soto have to improve the walk rate. They certainly have swing and miss, but at a significant cost. Cano can throw up in the zone and get misses, but he is used so often he is rarely sharp. He is used to induce ground balls, and the sinker is fairly effective when he is tired.  Akin, Webb and Coulombe are getting some swing and miss. They are all above average in swinging strike percentage, according to FanGraphs. MLB average is generally around 11.2% from year to year, and Akin (second on the Orioles behind Grayson 13.6) is at 13.2, Dominguez 12.4, Cano 12.2, Soto 12.9, Webb 11.8, Coulombe is 9.9 and Cionel 9.5. In fairness to Coulombe (11.8) and Webb (13.7), they are higher over the last three years. They have not been healthy for a fair amount of this season and pitched through some things that made those numbers dip, perhaps.  Bautista was 18% in the same period of 2022-2024. He would be 11th in MLB in 2024. No other Oriole is in the top 100 in MLB. Grayson Rodriguez is at #120. It should be noted that Andrew Walters is at 18.8, ranking 7th. He was our unsigned 18th round pick in 2022. All of that aside, I am not sure the pen is structured the same as in recent years. There may be some moves there. Or, perhaps it is like you wrote, and they focus on Soto and Dominguez making adjustments to having more command, decreasing the walks. Those two are getting a little expensive as well. I guess we’ll see.   
    • Malike
      AL playoff picture

      By Malike · Posted

      How much different? They sat Judge yesterday, they threw their playoff starters for 5+ innings yesterday and today. They are also playing for the best record in the AL. They aren't mailing it in.
    • KojiSplit
      2024 Playoff ticket availability

      By KojiSplit · Posted

      It’s not just the O’s. I’ve checked the Dodgers who have similar prices and they have a lot of upper deck NLDS games 2 & 3 available. Same for the NLCS. yanks still have seats available also. — In general, I’m sure alot of fans are just gonna wait till the day of to grab tickets.
    • gamiliel
      AL playoff picture

      By gamiliel · Posted

      That makes no sense. If they had to win their current series would have looked much different. 

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...