So, what are we going to talk about now?

[scOtt]

An example.

 

[interloper]

3 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

In the upcoming draft it’s looking like we’ll have 3 picks in the top 40, and 6 picks the top 100ish. 
 

With that being said, there’s a lot of drama with Kumar Rocker, and he didn’t sign with the Mets last year. If he fell to our 2nd pick which should be somewhere in the late 20s/early 30s, would Elias draft him?

He may not be the ace everyone, or himself, thinks he is, but he could be a solid mid-to-back rotation arm, with high upside bullpen leverage potential as well. 

Maybe, but what scared the Mets in those medicals? 

[sportsfan8703]

On 12/10/2021 at 2:52 PM, interloper said:

Maybe, but what scared the Mets in those medicals? 

Probably something you care about with a top 10 pick but not a 2nd rd pick. We’re still happy as clams with Carter Baumler and he needed TJS almost immediately after being drafted. If we’re talking about a $1-2mm signing bonus for Rocker with our 2nd/3rd pick, then I think you do that all day. 

[RZNJ]

4 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Probably something you care about with a top 10 pick but not a 2nd rd pick. We’re still happy as clams with Carter Baumler and he needed TJS almost immediately after being drafted. If we’re talking about a $1-2mm signing bonus for Rocker with our 2nd/3rd pick, then I think you do that all day. 

If Rocker and his agent were ok with 1-2 M, he probably would have signed with the Mets.  

[Ruzious]

5 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

If Rocker and his agent were ok with 1-2 M, he probably would have signed with the Mets.  

The Mets reportedly didn't make any offer to Rocker - choosing to get the 11th pick in the 2022 draft.  

[sportsfan8703]

5 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

If Rocker and his agent were ok with 1-2 M, he probably would have signed with the Mets.  

Agreed, but he lost that stare down with the Mets. Now he will almost certainly go much lower in the draft and then he can threaten to not sign again. Not good leverage. 

[sportsfan8703]

Showalter made it to round 2 with the Mets. 

[Ruzious]

23 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Probably something you care about with a top 10 pick but not a 2nd rd pick. We’re still happy as clams with Carter Baumler and he needed TJS almost immediately after being drafted. If we’re talking about a $1-2mm signing bonus for Rocker with our 2nd/3rd pick, then I think you do that all day. 

The Mets were worried about his right elbow.  From the New York Post:

Q: What exactly is wrong with Rocker?

A: The Mets expressed concern initially and primarily about Rocker’s right elbow, according to multiple sources. Ultimately, the Mets didn’t like what they saw beyond just the elbow, which is why they didn’t think even Tommy John surgery would alleviate their worries.

Rocker and Boras, of course, insist that nothing is wrong with him, and they possess the rather impressive Exhibit A of the pitcher’s body of work at college. That is why the entire baseball world, no one more than the Mets, will be watching Rocker very closely.

[Ruzious]

13 minutes ago, Ruzious said:

The Mets reportedly didn't make any offer to Rocker - choosing to get the 11th pick in the 2022 draft.  

Actually, they could lose that 11th pick if they sign a free agent that was tendered a contract by their former team and turned it down - because the 11th pick is scheduled to be their 2nd pick.  

[Can_of_corn]

6 minutes ago, Ruzious said:

Actually, they could lose that 11th pick if they sign a free agent that was tendered a contract by their former team and turned it down - because the 11th pick is scheduled to be their 2nd pick.  

I don't think that is accurate.

[Ruzious]

28 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I don't think that is accurate.

I think you are correct - the 14th pick is their 2nd pick, so that would be the pick they could lose.  

[interloper]

2 hours ago, Ruzious said:

The Mets were worried about his right elbow.  From the New York Post:

Q: What exactly is wrong with Rocker?

A: The Mets expressed concern initially and primarily about Rocker’s right elbow, according to multiple sources. Ultimately, the Mets didn’t like what they saw beyond just the elbow, which is why they didn’t think even Tommy John surgery would alleviate their worries.

Rocker and Boras, of course, insist that nothing is wrong with him, and they possess the rather impressive Exhibit A of the pitcher’s body of work at college. That is why the entire baseball world, no one more than the Mets, will be watching Rocker very closely.

What elbow issue can't be alleviated by TJS, I wonder? I'm sure there are a number of issues, but I'm not sure what. 

[Can_of_corn]

12 minutes ago, interloper said:

What elbow issue can't be alleviated by TJS, I wonder? I'm sure there are a number of issues, but I'm not sure what. 

[sportsfan8703]

If Showalter does get the job then that means Espada is still out there. I’d think that would make Espada the favorite if/when we do fire Hyde. Obvious Astros connections. Was linked to us last time. He probably turned us down. 

Edited December 17, 2021 by sportsfan8703

[Can_of_corn]

1 hour ago, sportsfan8703 said:

If Showalter does get the job then that means Espada is still out there. I’d think that would make Espada the favorite if/when we do fire Hyde. Obvious Astros connections. Was linked to us last time. He probably turned us down. 

I think they are grooming Buck for the job.