“Orioles big game shopping & most believe it's exclusively rotation”

[Yardball85]

1 minute ago, Roll Tide said:

Why couldn’t we beat this ?

 

 

You mean last season?  We weren't trying to sign anyone then.  That's from March 2022. 

[Roll Tide]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

I have to think something odd is going on that he took a two year deal.

Probably the year one opt out.

There is after year 1 ….but unless it’s $44 million per. 

[tntoriole]

1 hour ago, RZNJ said:

Rodon or Bassitt are the only two left that would make me happy.    I would settle for Cueto, Eovaldi, or Syndergaard.

Looks like Rodon wants 7 years and Yankees are ficusing on him 

 

Hmmmm

 

https://www.si.com/fannation/mlb/fastball/.amp/news/will-yankees-sign-carlos-rodon-new-york-eyeing-free-agent-pitcher

[Pickles]

25 minutes ago, tntoriole said:

Looks like Rodon wants 7 years and Yankees are ficusing on him 

 

Hmmmm

 

https://www.si.com/fannation/mlb/fastball/.amp/news/will-yankees-sign-carlos-rodon-new-york-eyeing-free-agent-pitcher

Excellent.  That means in 3-4 years, just as the Adley teams are peaking, the Yankees will owe about 75 million annually to  a couple of useless pieces.

[oriole]

15 minutes ago, Pickles said:

Excellent.  That means in 3-4 years, just as the Adley teams are peaking, the Yankees will owe about 75 million annually to  a couple of useless pieces.

The Adley teams are now. The peak could start in 2023 if the Orioles weren’t so unbelievably risk adverse

[Pickles]

3 minutes ago, oriole said:

The Adley teams are now. The peak could start in 2023 if the Orioles weren’t so unbelievably risk adverse

Gunnar's 21.  Grayson is going to be on a pitch limit.  Hall hasn't established  role yet.  Three top 5 picks figure to debut in the next 2 years or so.

This team's going to continue to improve internally for several years now.

[tntoriole]

21 minutes ago, Pickles said:

Excellent.  That means in 3-4 years, just as the Adley teams are peaking, the Yankees will owe about 75 million annually to  a couple of useless pieces.

They will replace them with the best free agents available lol 

[Pickles]

Just now, tntoriole said:

They will replace them with the best free agents available lol 

That's not always possible.  Even for the Yankees.

Part of what made the O's last playoff runs possible was the fact that the Yankees never won 90 games from 2013-16.  And that was partly due to contracts to aging guys like Tex, Jeter, Sabathia, etc.

[Aristotelian]

4 minutes ago, oriole said:

The Adley teams are now. The peak could start in 2023 if the Orioles weren’t so unbelievably risk adverse

Let's stipulate Verlander and Degrom won't come here. Who do you sign? Do you really want Rodon for 7 years?

I know overpaying is "cost of doing business." But let's also stipulate you are allowed one bad contract at a time. You are asking ownership for $20-$30M per and they say they are willing to give it to you, but this is it, no do overs. Is Carlos Rodon the guy you want to overpay for, and do you really want to do it now? 

[RZNJ]

Carlos Rodon just turned 30 is just about to turn 30.    Paying a power pitcher for his 30-36 years is not necesarily a bad thing.  Look at Scherzer and Verlander.  The question, as with any pitcher is health.   Rodon COULD be worth that contract (7/210?).    It's a big gamble but he's the one thing the Orioles don't have.  An ace.  Plus he's lefthanded.    I'd certainly look into getting insurance on that contract if I could but I'd be tempted to go all in on Rodon.

[geschinger]

10 minutes ago, tntoriole said:

They will replace them with the best free agents available lol 

The Yankees aren't the Dodgers, they have an aversion to exceeding and staying over the luxury tax for an extended period of time.

[waroriole]

2 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

Why couldn’t we beat this ?

 

 

Dude you’re gonna have to start paying attention to what you post. I don’t know how you even come across this tweet from 10 months ago. 

[Sports Guy]

16 minutes ago, waroriole said:

Dude you’re gonna have to start paying attention to what you post. I don’t know how you even come across this tweet from 10 months ago. 

Jack Rose retweeted it

[tntoriole]

1 hour ago, Aristotelian said:

Let's stipulate Verlander and Degrom won't come here. Who do you sign? Do you really want Rodon for 7 years?

I know overpaying is "cost of doing business." But let's also stipulate you are allowed one bad contract at a time. You are asking ownership for $20-$30M per and they say they are willing to give it to you, but this is it, no do overs. Is Carlos Rodon the guy you want to overpay for, and do you really want to do it now? 

The Orioles are never going to sign a pitcher like that unless a new billionaire buys them. 
Plus TOR pitchers are overvalued as to needing them to win the WS  .. look at Verlander 16-11 in playoffs , Scherzer 7-7 , Verlander 1-6 in WS ? 
Either way .. the only TOR we will ever see here will come from Norfolk. 

[Sports Guy]

1 hour ago, Pickles said:

Gunnar's 21.  Grayson is going to be on a pitch limit.  Hall hasn't established  role yet.  Three top 5 picks figure to debut in the next 2 years or so.

This team's going to continue to improve internally for several years now.

We hope.  There are no guarantees.  They threw away a potential playoff spot last year because of the attitude “everything will be good long term”.  That’s the wrong attitude.