Sports Guy Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/insider/story/_/id/35630053/2022-2023-mlb-offseason-grades-all-30-teams Additions: RHP Kyle Gibson, LHP Cole Irvin, 2B Adam Frazier, C James McCann, RHP Mychal Givens Departures: RHP Jordan Lyles, 2B Rougned Odor I understand the process here ... but this feels like a missed opportunity. GM Mike Elias came from the Astros. The 2022 Orioles, who won 83 games, are similar to the 2015 Astros, a surprise wild-card team that year with 86 wins. Those Astros played the long game, however, not making significant additions from outside the organization until Verlander in 2017 and then Gerrit Cole prior to the 2018 season. That's the approach Elias is using with the Orioles. With Gunnar Henderson and Grayson Rodriguez joining Adley Rutschman, the young core should be dynamic -- with others on the way. Still, this was probably the best free agent market that we'll see over the next few years and the Orioles' payroll is so low they could have afforded one of the free agent starters. Again, however: the Astros' blueprint. At some point, the Orioles are probably more likely to use their farm system depth to trade for a starter (as with Verlander and Cole) rather than commit nine figures. It means the 2023 Orioles will probably take a small step back, as the Astros did in 2016. Grade: D+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waroriole Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Generous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCRaven Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 I was dreaming on Verlander. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted February 15, 2023 Author Share Posted February 15, 2023 Hard to argue. I would probably be a little higher but not by much. Certainly no issue with a D+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdart20 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 23 minutes ago, Sports Guy said: I understand the process here ... I'd love to hear Schoenfeld's take on 'the process here' because I'm just guessing. And I think the rest of us are too. And then he goes on to compare the O's to the Astros and, well, I think they're on a pretty good long-term trajectory as an organization. For the record, I have no issues with a D+ either. Especially as it compares with 'lift off' and expectations of a normal 'competitive window'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HakunaSakata Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 D+?!?! He must have been grading on a curve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripken Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Sounds high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotelian Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 I know I am an Elias "fanboy" but D+ is a little harsh. I like the McAnn and Irvin acquisitions, and don't entirely dislike Gibson, and doing nothing is better than a bad overpay. Frazier is the head scratcher and I would have preferred a bigger SP signing like everyone. I'm at C. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdart20 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Aristotelian said: I know I am an Elias "fanboy" but D+ is a little harsh. I like the McAnn and Irvin acquisitions, and don't entirely dislike Gibson, and doing nothing is better than a bad overpay. Frazier is the head scratcher and I would have preferred a bigger SP signing like everyone. I'm at C. I'm a C too for basically the same reasons. But can understand people giving a D+ considering expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmett16 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 I’d say that sounds about right. Maybe C- if you’re generous. You could easy defend a D-. Pretty disappointing after the build up last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony-OH Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Like I said at the time, I felt the Irvin acquisition saved his offseason and made it a C for me. But it really depends on how you grade because if we graded off our biggest needs (TOR and MOO) he failed to deliver on either though Henderson or Rutschman could turn into the MOO and Mountcastle too with a rebound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1984 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 D is about right with what was available, but I would give it a B+ compared to the O’s prior offseason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcard Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 45 minutes ago, btdart20 said: I'm a C too for basically the same reasons. But can understand people giving a D+ considering expectations. If we are just talking about the O's off season additions from outside the org then I agree with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobby Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 I think it’s fair enough, on Schoenfield’s scale. He’s an overall tough grader, with 8 other teams getting a grade as bad or worse than the Orioles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverRocket Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 I'd give the offseason a C. The moves were the opposite of sexy but they were about raising the floor, not the ceiling. Upgrading a -0.5 WAR to a 1.5 WAR isn't as exciting as upgrading a 2.0 WAR to a 3.5 WAR, but they're worth 2 wins either way and the first is a lot cheaper. I would've preferred more, but after a few seasons where the floor was well below replacement, it's nice to have a team with hopefully enough depth to avoid that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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