Mariners looking to trade pitching for hitting?

[Sports Guy]

3 minutes ago, ShoelesJoe said:

Would Mullins + Ortiz for Gilbert work? 

They already have a pretty decent CFer.

[Just Regular]

Focus will rightly be on the SP, but Paul Sewald only has one Arb year left before FA, same as Santander, if they fall out of it.     I think Sewald is better than Scott Barlow.

[Filmstudy]

17 minutes ago, Just Regular said:

Focus will rightly be on the SP, but Paul Sewald only has one Arb year left before FA, same as Santander, if they fall out of it.     I think Sewald is better than Scott Barlow.

Barlow is 3 years younger (30 vs 33).  Does that concern you when you are ponying up trade capital for both years?

[Just Regular]

6 minutes ago, Filmstudy said:

Barlow is 3 years younger (30 vs 33).  Does that concern you when you are ponying up trade capital for both years?

I think the quality could be worth it.    They are both on nice 3-year runs...here are qualified Relievers 2021-2023; K-BB sees Barlow about 75th percentile, but Sewald in the mid-90's.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=rel&lg=all&qual=y&type=1&season=2023&month=0&season1=2021&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=2021-01-01&enddate=2023-12-31&sort=9,d&page=1_30

Wouldn't say no to both!

 

[25 Nuggets]

5 hours ago, Just Regular said:

I think the quality could be worth it.    They are both on nice 3-year runs...here are qualified Relievers 2021-2023; K-BB sees Barlow about 75th percentile, but Sewald in the mid-90's.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=rel&lg=all&qual=y&type=1&season=2023&month=0&season1=2021&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=2021-01-01&enddate=2023-12-31&sort=9,d&page=1_30

Wouldn't say no to both!

 

Considering we do not expect the Orioles to acquire a big name starting pitcher, lengthening the bullpen for the playoffs may be the better move anyway, for what they'd have to give up.

That could bring a lot of names into the equation, not just from the Mariners.  But Sewald would be a really good get.  The guy's been money since he came to Seattle.

[Yardball85]

Urias and Hays for Gilbert?  O's trade from a glut to a team looking for hitting, and add some pitching.  See if they want Cole Irvin too and maybe get someone else back. 

[CaptainRedbeard]

21 minutes ago, Yardball85 said:

Urias and Hays for Gilbert?  O's trade from a glut to a team looking for hitting, and add some pitching.  See if they want Cole Irvin too and maybe get someone else back. 

Gilbert still has 4 years of control after this year. Hays has 2 and Urias has 3, but Urias is already 29 so those extra years aren’t as valuable. The Orioles would have to include significant prospect capital as well.

It’s hard to envision any Gilbert trade that doesn’t include a top 100 prospect going to SEA. 

[EddeeEddee]

10 hours ago, ShoelesJoe said:

Would Mullins + Ortiz for Gilbert work? 

I think the O's would trade Hays or Santander before they trade Mullins.  Mullins is a better defender and he's still kind of the heart and soul of the team.  But with the team playing as well as it is I think it's less and less they'll trade any of the starting outfielders.  I think Ortiz, Norby, Kjerstad and even Cowser may be the most likely to be traded, but that's just my gut saying so.

[baltfan]

1 hour ago, CaptainRedbeard said:

Gilbert still has 4 years of control after this year. Hays has 2 and Urias has 3, but Urias is already 29 so those extra years aren’t as valuable. The Orioles would have to include significant prospect capital as well.

It’s hard to envision any Gilbert trade that doesn’t include a top 100 prospect going to SEA. 

They are as likely to trade Gilbert as the Orioles are to trade Gunnar.  Imagine if G-Rod was actually what we expected him to be and then envision what you would want to trade him away. 

[Bemorewins]

3 hours ago, Yardball85 said:

Urias and Hays for Gilbert?  O's trade from a glut to a team looking for hitting, and add some pitching.  See if they want Cole Irvin too and maybe get someone else back. 

They are going to give us their number 2 pitcher who has 3 1/2 years left of control for Hays and spare parts?

Would this be in a world that assumes their GM is brain dead or has lost grip of reality?

[GuidoSarducci]

12 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

They already have a pretty decent CFer.

He can also play LF (but would be dodgy at RF with his arm)

[Roll Tide]

3 hours ago, EddeeEddee said:

I think the O's would trade Hays or Santander before they trade Mullins.  Mullins is a better defender and he's still kind of the heart and soul of the team.  But with the team playing as well as it is I think it's less and less they'll trade any of the starting outfielders.  I think Ortiz, Norby, Kjerstad and even Cowser may be the most likely to be traded, but that's just my gut saying so.

Kjerstad was mentioned as one of three untouchables.

[Roll Tide]

45 minutes ago, Bemorewins said:

They are going to give us their number 2 pitcher who has 3 1/2 years left of control for Hays and spare parts?

Would this be in a world that assumes their GM is brain dead or has lost grip of reality?

I think our fans undervalue Urias. He’s a very solid infielder and not an automatic out. Plus he has some pop. He’s not more than solid but he’s only a spare part because we are stacked.

[Sydnor]

19 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

Kjerstad was mentioned as one of three untouchables.

Who mentioned Kjerstad as one of three untouchables, and who were the others? I did a google search but didn’t find anything.

[OriolesMagic83]

1 hour ago, Bemorewins said:

They are going to give us their number 2 pitcher who has 3 1/2 years left of control for Hays and spare parts?

Would this be in a world that assumes their GM is brain dead or has lost grip of reality?

Yeah, GMs like DD only come once in a generation.  There must have been a feeding frenzy to fleece the O's.