Vavra and Tucker Davidson outrighted to Norfolk

[wildcard]

The 40 man roster is now at 36.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/11/orioles-outright-terrin-vavra-tucker-davidson.html

Edited November 14, 2023 by wildcard

[waroriole]

Surprised Vavra wasn’t claimed. 

[Tony-OH]

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 Hudson Haskin is the only clear-cut candidate to be added to the 40-man today. 

Huh? I'd be shocked of Hudson was added to the 40-man. No one is taking Haskin in the Rule 5 draft and if they did, oh well. Adding Haskin would be a waste of a 40-man spot. Not sure why anyone would think he's a clear cut candidate though if they have space, they may throw him on there if they want 4th/5th outfield depth.

Brandon Young is probably the best prospect who is eligible for rule 5 drafting. He's coming off a shortened season due to Tommy John surgery the year before so someone could give him a look in their pen. 

Realistically, there are no "must keep" players eligible this year. The short 2020 draft and the fact that the Orioles took two high schoolers (Mayo and Baumler) and that Kjerstad and Westburg both are already on it, means there's not a ton needing to be protected. Servideo was a miss and Haskin hasn't shown me enough to be considered anything more than a 4th/5th outfielder option at best. 

[Tony-OH]

4 minutes ago, waroriole said:

Surprised Vavra wasn’t claimed. 

Doesn't have a real position, he's not fast, doesn't have power, and he's been injury prone over his career. His best skill is bat to ball and ability to work counts, but he doesn't have a carrying tool. 

[Tony-OH]

Got to wonder if the Orioles see something of value in the Rule 5 draft or they are just opening up spots for expected waive claims and/or offseason acquisitions?

Interesting that they signed Davidson to a one-year contract then DFA'd him, perhaps to dissuade anyone from taking him and keeping him in the org.  

 

 

[btdart20]

4 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Got to wonder if the Orioles see something of value in the Rule 5 draft or they are just opening up spots for expected waive claims and/or offseason acquisitions?

Interesting that they signed Davidson to a one-year contract then DFA'd him, perhaps to dissuade anyone from taking him and keeping him in the org.  

 

 

Gotta think this is the case.  RP, CF, and 1B types again I assume.

[backwardsk]

There goes that World Series experience.

[Matt Bennett]

Maybe Vavra can put on some lb's and develop some power

[waroriole]

1 hour ago, Tony-OH said:

Doesn't have a real position, he's not fast, doesn't have power, and he's been injury prone over his career. His best skill is bat to ball and ability to work counts, but he doesn't have a carrying tool. 

While I don’t disagree, and don’t see a place on our roster for him, I gotta think a team like Oakland or KC could give him a chance. 

[interloper]

Nice to have these players in AAA without clogging the 40-man. 

I think the O's are going to protect more guys than folks think. 

[interloper]

1 hour ago, Tony-OH said:

Huh? I'd be shocked of Hudson was added to the 40-man. No one is taking Haskin in the Rule 5 draft and if they did, oh well. Adding Haskin would be a waste of a 40-man spot. Not sure why anyone would think he's a clear cut candidate though if they have space, they may throw him on there if they want 4th/5th outfield depth.

If they do protect Haskin, all eyes should be on a possible McKenna non-tender. Options matter - just look how the O's used McKenna so far. That dude was on a bus or plane every other week for years. Can't do that with him next year. So you protect Haskin to ensure you have that guy again. 

[jabba72]

I wont shed tears over losing Vavra, Haskin or Young in the Rule 5. If another team thinks they are mlb quality, good luck to them. 

[Tony-OH]

25 minutes ago, interloper said:

If they do protect Haskin, all eyes should be on a possible McKenna non-tender. Options matter - just look how the O's used McKenna so far. That dude was on a bus or plane every other week for years. Can't do that with him next year. So you protect Haskin to ensure you have that guy again. 

Potentially, but I think you can find a better option than Haskin in that role. He's not a CFer really.

[Frobby]

8 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Potentially, but I think you can find a better option than Haskin in that role. He's not a CFer really.

I’ve noticed over the years that you are more negative on Haskins’ defense than many other evaluators.  He’s played 129 of 181 games in CF, so is he really not a CF?   I mean, I realize he’s no Bradfield or even Fabian, but how does he stack up with Cowser or Hays in CF?

[sportsfan8703]

I like adding Haskin since we don’t know about Hicks, and then McKenna is out of options. Our only other CF depth is Hilliard, who is also out of options, and Bradfield/Fabian that both will be in AAA.