Holliday called up!

[nevadaO]

Batters BAL	B	HR	RBI	SB	AVG	OPS
HendersonSS	L	2	6	3	.231	.757
RutschmanC	S	0	6	0	.316	.754
SantanderRF	S	2	11	0	.214	.632
O'HearnDH	L	1	1	0	.333	1.036
Mountcastle1B	R	1	8	0	.282	.820
MullinsCF	L	2	8	2	.188	.635
CowserLF	L	0	5	0	.467	1.171
Westburg3B	R	1	5	0	.194	.597
Holliday2B	L	-	-	-	-	-

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Three Run Homer said:

I do wonder if Michael Jackson was so important to kids growing up in the 1980s that a lot of people wound up naming their kids after him.  

Or Andrew.

[WestCoastBmore]

Been following this convo and you guys have danced around the answer which I think is pretty simple:  To get the compensatory draft pick for winning ROTY you have to have 172 days of service time.

There is obviously no guarantee J. Holliday is going to win ROTY (or finish 2nd in voting where you also get a compensatory pick) but it would be very wasteful if they brought him up in late April or May and he finished 1st or 2nd in ROTY voting but they didn't get the compensatory pick.  

 

Also, they brought Adley up on May 21st but that still qualified as a year of service time because he finished 2nd in ROTY voting even though he was up for far less than 172 days.  So that likely factored in as well... why wait, because this year may qualify as a year of service time for JH regardless (if he has a great year).  

 

Thirdly, as discussed, there's also a definite need for Holliday on the big league club with Kemp and Urias starting out so terribly.  

 

So that should help answer the debate unless I'm mistaken about the compensatory draft pick as it relates to service time (which has gotten very complicated in recent years). 

 

Lasty- I'm not sure what all the fuss about is not having Holliday start on the MLB Major League roster Opening Day. They needed a couple more weeks to get him adjusted to a new position, and it also takes a little pressure off him not having him start on the Opening Day and face all the LHP early in the season.  Imagine if he started out like Urias or Kemp?  I think it was wise to give him a couple weeks in AAA to get fully locked and loaded, kind of an extended Spring Training.

 

[RZNJ]

Good to see that Westburg recovered from his injury so quickly.  

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

Wish I could go to Friday night’s game. 

 

[Orioles West]

1 hour ago, Aristotelian said:

Kemp served his purpose of buying time for Holliday without burning a Norby option. It can't be a whiff if there was no swing.

That’s a solid assertion, I just don’t quite buy in on the 14-day Holliday LHP dodge theory for why he started in Norfolk. It could be true, but we don’t know for sure. If it is true, why didn’t the O’s tell him the plan?

I also don’t know that the front office was sweating a Norby option — and if they were, Wong was already around to have his option picked up.

Kemp’s aging .209 BA last season wasn’t even exciting enough for the A’s — why pay him so well for a temp fill?

Heck, if Elias runs for Congress, he has my vote, but Kemp was a bad idea, in my humble estimation.

[Sports Guy]

[Orioles West]

48 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Good to see that Westburg recovered from his injury so quickly.  

I was thinking the same - mystery injury that never happened appears to be all better.

[Spy Fox]

15 minutes ago, Orioles West said:

That’s a solid assertion, I just don’t quite buy in on the 14-day Holliday LHP dodge theory for why he started in Norfolk. It could be true, but we don’t know for sure. If it is true, why didn’t the O’s tell him the plan?

I also don’t know that the front office was sweating a Norby option — and if they were, Wong was already around to have his option picked up.

Kemp’s aging .209 BA last season wasn’t even exciting enough for the A’s — why pay him so well for a temp fill?

Heck, if Elias runs for Congress, he has my vote, but Kemp was a bad idea, in my humble estimation.

No matter what the plan was, I don't think there's any plus in telling Holliday directly that he's already earned his spot but is being held down for obscure reasons. You tell him, good job kid, here's what we want you to work on, and we hope to see you up here sometime soon. 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

20 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

 

I think he's trolling, but there are fans who will freak out over an 0-4 performance at the plate tonight.

Edited April 10 by OsFanSinceThe80s

[Orioles West]

3 minutes ago, Spy Fox said:

No matter what the plan was, I don't think there's any plus in telling Holliday directly that he's already earned his spot but is being held down for obscure reasons. You tell him, good job kid, here's what we want you to work on, and we hope to see you up here sometime soon. 

Ultimately, my speculation about this is why the O’s have not called me for advice. I leave them my number at least once a month, and I never hear back.

At the end of the day, if details do become known, and something about Kemp and the delayed call up make more sense, it will amount to mild entertainment, long forgotten after Holliday is an All-Star.

[ThisIsBirdland]

 

[ThisIsBirdland]

 

[emmett16]

8 minutes ago, ThisIsBirdland said:

 

Gonna be tough rooting for this kid if he's a liar.  There is absolutely no way that 55 PAs in AAA did him any good.  The sample size is way too small.  The gall of this kid.  

[Can_of_corn]

5 minutes ago, emmett16 said:

Gonna be tough rooting for this kid if he's a liar.  There is absolutely no way that 55 PAs in AAA did him any good.  The sample size is way too small.  The gall of this kid.  

He might not have faced a position player pitching since...well, high school.