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To everyone thinking we should, or may have to, give up multiple top 15 prospects for Skubal- please read this article: https://www.milb.com/news/toolshed-10-biggest-prospect-trades-of-the-decade

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Sure, totally agree with you there. But they were definitely contributors to the thinktank there, and they assuredly have taken a lot from Luhnow and the rest of the gang there.  And we now have

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1 minute ago, Moose Milligan said:

I'll pass.  

You’re entitled to that opinion. I just wouldn’t let those early season starts define him considering he had no ST. 

The past performance this season really doesn’t matter. It would come down to does he look like a #1/#2 SP?  He looked really good against a tough Dodgers team last night. 

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You’re entitled to that opinion. I just wouldn’t let those early season starts define him considering he had no ST. 

The past performance this season really doesn’t matter. It would come down to does he look like a #1/#2 SP?  He looked really good against a tough Dodgers team last night. 

I just think he's the ultimate guy to try and maximize a situation for personal gain.  Had a hell of a season last year, not coincidentally it was a contract year.  Wouldn't surprise me if he wanted to get out of SFG and decided to turn it on a bit as the deadline approaches to see if there's any takers.

I don't trust that dude at all.  

Although I would say it'd be hilarious to see Philip hit the ceiling after hearing him talk.  Sounds like a little Eminem wannabe.

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27 minutes ago, dystopia said:

Kjerstad needs to be replaced with Stowers or Beavers for the O’s to even entertain this IMO. Even then they probably wouldn’t. I don’t think they intend to trade Holliday. 

Detroit doesn't pick up the phone for Holliday, Stowers and Povich. HK is who they would require if they want an OF. Or they would want additional pieces beyond Holliday, Stowers and Povich, likely a Beavers. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

You’re entitled to that opinion. I just wouldn’t let those early season starts define him considering he had no ST. 

The past performance this season really doesn’t matter. It would come down to does he look like a #1/#2 SP?  He looked really good against a tough Dodgers team last night. 

What do the Giants want for him?

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18 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

What do the Giants want for him?

Looks like they need offense. I was reading that Chapman was rumored to the Yankees. Conforto could be on the move as well. 

I doubt they do a full rebuild. Just move some expiring deals and look to compete again next year like they always seem to do. 

I would think they would value Stowers and Norby for those reasons. 

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Just thought I’d mention that Skubal is going to rank somewhere in the 1-30 range on Fangraphs’ top 50 trade value players list (a spoiler in the introductory second mentioned he was ranked).  Holliday was at 37 on the list, Kjerstad was an honorable mention.  So, the idea that the Tigers could get both for Skubal isn’t that far-fetched.  

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Cheating a little to count Cowser still as a prospect, he and Kjerstad are for me a 4/5 tier.

Cowser and Kjerstad for Skubal is one I couldn't say would be my instant feeling.

I wouldn't invest any of the Big 3 for Skubal or Crochet alone.

I am sure Elias' angle is to leverage his depth, and Getz/Harris' position might be, "I don't want your knickknacks but give me two good things like the Burnes structure."

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1 hour ago, banks703 said:

Detroit doesn't pick up the phone for Holliday, Stowers and Povich. HK is who they would require if they want an OF. Or they would want additional pieces beyond Holliday, Stowers and Povich, likely a Beavers. 

 

 

Then the O’s should hang up the phone. Simple. 

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Trading for Tarik and having him under control thru 2027 would lessen the blow of losing Burnes after this year. I highly doubt we will resign Burnes for his supposed asking price. We trade Tarik and it allows us to keep the payroll manageable even with resigning Anthony. 

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I don't see Elias trading Holliday, Mayo, or Basallo.  Along with the rest of the core (Gunnar, Adler, Kjerstad, Westburg, Cowser, etc) they form Orioles success the next 7 years or so.

 

The trade pieces are pretty much anyone else in the minors and several guys on the big league roster.  Also, don't rule out Burnes coming back.  Rubinstein will spend.

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1 hour ago, banks703 said:

Detroit doesn't pick up the phone for Holliday, Stowers and Povich. HK is who they would require if they want an OF. Or they would want additional pieces beyond Holliday, Stowers and Povich, likely a Beavers. 

 

 

If they “won’t pick up the phone” for a package headlined by the #1 prospect in the minors, then they aren’t trading Skubal, period. 

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