Grade the Hays for Dominguez/Pache trade

[Aristotelian]

2 hours ago, wildcard said:

I don't love it.  I don't really even like it.

I think Phillies probably won the trade.   They get Hays as their everyday 28 year old left fielder who is under their control through 2025.  He will probably do well for them until he gets hurt.

 

I don't see how Hays is an everyday player. Marsh hits over .800 vs RHP, he is just unplayable vs LHP. 

I think it was a good need-for-need trade. Dominguez has not had the best year but he has great stuff and closing experience. If he is the only arm we get I will be disappointed but I can see him bringing value. I am bummed that we DFA'd Nittoli.

Meanwhile, our 5th OF now has the ability to play CF while opening up opportunities for Kjerstad and Cowser to face LHP. 

[bpilktree67]

9 hours ago, HowAboutThat said:

Shame to lose Vinnie Nittoli. He only threw four innings but he was good enough to get more. Why not option Baker?

They needed the 40 man spot as well.  They are guessing Nittoli makes it through waivers.  

[Three Run Homer]

42 minutes ago, webbrick2010 said:

Clearly the O's wanted to move Hayes for more than baseball reasons, so that is a success

Elaborate, please.  

[webbrick2010]

Just watched highlights (lowlights) from last night and can easily say that if Hays was in left field we win the game.

Kierstadt doesn't look like an OF'er, apparently Mayo can't play anywhere.

Are we heading back to the Buck years with 5 DH's on the roster??

 

 

[webbrick2010]

1 minute ago, Three Run Homer said:

Elaborate, please.  

See the multiple threads on Clubhouse issues

[Three Run Homer]

3 minutes ago, webbrick2010 said:

See the multiple threads on Clubhouse issues

Fair enough, thanks

[Roll Tide]

Honestly get Pache was stupid …. Especially if Philly isn’t paying his salary. It’s dumping $400,000 in the trash if you DFA him. He can’t hit and you have an offensively challenged team that can’t afford someone worse than the guy you traded. 

[NedFromYork]

Yes, Pacheco is definitely going to.have to.come for Kjerstad or a Stowers or a Norby (if they try him there) late.

[NedFromYork]

How long do we have each guy?

[Roll Tide]

4 minutes ago, NedFromYork said:

How long do we have each guy?

Pache through 2027 …but I’m guessing he doesn’t last the season. Dominquez for 2 months 

[Aristotelian]

8 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

Honestly get Pache was stupid …. Especially if Philly isn’t paying his salary. It’s dumping $400,000 in the trash if you DFA him. He can’t hit and you have an offensively challenged team that can’t afford someone worse than the guy you traded. 

It wouldn't be flushing the money, it would just be adding to the cost of Dominguez. $400k is nothing.

[NedFromYork]

Thanks Roll, appreciate it.

[foxfield]

 I like the move.  I would have liked to have gotten a better arm, but I think it's a pretty fair trade.  Philly's probably grade out slightly higher, but which team fairs better this year because of the trade depends on a number of factors.

The move does create some space for our young OF, but Pache is likely just a late inning replacement and that likely just shifts the pressure elsewhere.

Also think Hays' comments are entirely overblown.  What the hell was he supposed to say getting traded from the #2 team so far to the #1?

Lastly, in the same way moving Mancini to Houston was good for us and good for a respected Oriole, I like the opportunity Hays will have in Philly.

[ChosenOne21]

29 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

Pache through 2027 …but I’m guessing he doesn’t last the season. Dominquez for 2 months 

Dominguez does have an 8M option. If he's lights out the rest of the year, I imagine we exercise it.

[wildcard]

1 hour ago, Sports Guy said:

Or you are just vastly overrating Hays 

Watch what Phillies President Dombrowski says about Hays and how he will use him.   I am saying what he is saying.