Cole Irvin to start tomorrow

[accinfo]

10 minutes ago, Uli2001 said:

Then it's an automatic loss, sorry. Hyde must be trying to get out of town early tomorrow.

Bet the Mets then.  Easy money.

[maybenxtyr]

12 minutes ago, Uli2001 said:

Then it's an automatic loss, sorry. Hyde must be trying to get out of town early tomorrow.

Please elaborate on your pick to start tomorrow. 

[Uli2001]

6 minutes ago, maybenxtyr said:

Please elaborate on your pick to start tomorrow. 

If Povich is not available, then anyone who is. We have seen enough of Irvin this season. I will be glad if he proves me wrong.

[Wavetrapper]

Aren’t we now one pitcher heavy on active roster?

add : Povich, Irvin, Tate

drop: Aiken, Eflin 

[Matt Bennett]

6 minutes ago, Wavetrapper said:

Aren’t we now one pitcher heavy on active roster?

add : Povich, Irvin, Tate

drop: Aiken, Eflin 

Option one of Rogers, Povich, Smith, Tate? 

[Aristotelian]

4 minutes ago, Matt Bennett said:

Option one of Rogers, Povich, Smith, Tate? 

Has to be Smith, IMO. 

[Wavetrapper]

We’ve got Povich, Irvin and Rogers basically for the same slot don’t we?

 

[Wavetrapper]

Just now, Wavetrapper said:

We’ve got Povich, Irvin and Rogers basically for the same slot don’t we?

 

Never mind, I forgot about Eflins spot

[24fps]

1 hour ago, O's84 said:

Irvin had an ERA of 7.16 in June and July.  There was nothing unjust about his demotion.

Facts, schmacts...  we need story here.  One rich on grit and verteranocity and come from behind wonderfulness.

Besides Irvin's FIP was only 5.64 during that time, considerably better than Burnes' last start - for that matter it's in the same neighborhood as Burnes' last three consecutive starts.  In the race to lose our way to the AL East title, it's clear we still have work to do.

[O's84]

1 hour ago, 24fps said:

Facts, schmacts...  we need story here.  One rich on grit and verteranocity and come from behind wonderfulness.

Besides Irvin's FIP was only 5.64 during that time, considerably better than Burnes' last start - for that matter it's in the same neighborhood as Burnes' last three consecutive starts.  In the race to lose our way to the AL East title, it's clear we still have work to do.

A 5.64 ERA is still awful and did you just try and compare Irvin to Burnes? Burnes has a career ERA+ of 128.   Irvin's career ERA+ is 88.  The track record speaks for itself.  Besides, the stretch from Burnes you are referring to is 15 IP.  Irvin's was 44 IP.  That's nearly triple the amount.

 

 

Edited August 21 by O's84

[sportsfan8703]

It’s like going back to your backup QB in the NFL. You can do it. Let’s just hope Povich has some Ryan Tannehill in him. Also, we’ve seen guys go down and come up fixed. 

Just perform and we gotta score runs. 

[Bahama O's Fan]

The 40 man spot is easier than the 26 man. Who goes down? This also means to send Irvin down, you would have to DFA him again. 

[Frobby]

I’m kind of interested in seeing Brandon Young, but the timing didn’t work out because he pitched on Sunday.  Povich was recalled even though he’s not available until tomorrow at the earliest.  So, I assume this will be one and done for Irvin and then they’ll insert Povich somewhere?    

[CaptainRedbeard]

One of Selby, Tate or Smith needs to be optioned for Irvin. Another will need to go for Akin when he is back from paternity leave.

I’m going to guess Selby goes for Irvin today and Tate soaks up some innings today before going for Akin. But Smith could be optioned if they want both Selby and Tate available today.

[CaptainRedbeard]

Just now, Frobby said:

I’m kind of interested in seeing Brandon Young, but the timing didn’t work out because he pitched on Sunday.  Povich was recalled even though he’s not available until tomorrow at the earliest.  So, I assume this will be one and done for Irvin and then they’ll insert Povich somewhere?    

This could definitely be one and done for Irvin in the rotation, but with the Eflin injury I wonder if they try to put Irvin back in the pen instead of DFA’ing him. I believe he could not reject the outright to AAA after clearing waivers the first time, but now he could now if they DFA him again.

Young and Irvin are really the only SP depth remaining now, and there’s big questions about all of the SP except Burnes, Kremer and Irvin left standing now making it through the rest of the year. Suárez threw a lot over winter ball, Rogers barely pitched last year and is already pushing his career high IP, and Povich and especially Young are still building up innings as young SP (with Young coming off TJS as well). 

I think Young is a much better option than Irvin now, but Irvin is durable if nothing else. Young also had the 40-man roster working against him (although he will need to be added this offseason, so that’s not much of an impediment), but I also wonder if they will be conscious of trying to not use one of Young’s options this year. This year has really emphasized the importance of optionable SP depth and he projects to be one of those depth guys for the next few years. That’s a very marginal difference in value and it doesn’t outweigh trying to have the best team we can put on the field now, but it could be a factor under consideration.