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[Orioles0615]

Go trade for Brent Rooker

[Aristotelian]

1 minute ago, Orioles0615 said:

Go trade for Brent Rooker

I absolutely love Rooker. If Oakland is open to trading him we should be all over it. 

[glenn__davis]

9 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

I absolutely love Rooker. If Oakland is open to trading him we should be all over it. 

Sacramento you mean

[tntoriole]

From the “it could be worse” dept 

10 consecutive is still way short of 18 straight .. 

The Minnesota Twins have finally broken out of their postseason slump.

The team beat the Toronto Blue Jays 3-1 in the wild-card round of the MLB playoffs Tuesday, their first postseason win since 2004. A lengthy drought between wins isn't unusual, but what makes the Twins' run particularly galling is that they lost 18 straight postseason games. That's three straight losses in the 2004 ALDS, four 3-0 sweeps and losses in the 2017 wild-card sudden-death game and the 2020 wild-card round

[webbrick2010]

2 hours ago, Aristotelian said:

I absolutely love Rooker. If Oakland is open to trading him we should be all over it. 

It would take Holiday, Basallo/Mayo, plus couple other top 20 prospects

And yeah I would still do it

[Emory Eagle]

4 hours ago, tntoriole said:

From the “it could be worse” dept 

10 consecutive is still way short of 18 straight .. 

The Minnesota Twins have finally broken out of their postseason slump.

The team beat the Toronto Blue Jays 3-1 in the wild-card round of the MLB playoffs Tuesday, their first postseason win since 2004. A lengthy drought between wins isn't unusual, but what makes the Twins' run particularly galling is that they lost 18 straight postseason games. That's three straight losses in the 2004 ALDS, four 3-0 sweeps and losses in the 2017 wild-card sudden-death game and the 2020 wild-card round

18 straight is crazy and I had no idea Minnesota had that streak going.  Baseball is a silly sport.  And cruel.

[Roll Tide]

7 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

The old regime?  Elias has been here for a while. It’s the same approach that has seen them have a top offense for 2 years in a row.

What old regime are you talking about?

I’m talking about having low OBP types. 

[Roll Tide]

3 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

I’m talking about having low OBP types. 

 

3 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

I’m talking about having low OBP types. 

@Sports Guyyes …. The sub .326 OBP types that we had at nearly every position. I’m not wasting my time looking at the 2nd half OBP of each of these guys. But, if Adley OPS was the fives he went from a high OBP player to a poor OBP.

[Sports Guy]

1 minute ago, Roll Tide said:

 

@Sports Guyyes …. The sub .326 OBP types that we had at nearly every position. I’m not wasting my time looking at the 2nd half OBP of each of these guys. But, if Adley OPS was the fives he went from a high OBP player to a poor OBP.

I just don’t get what your overall point is about the old regime. Your point just isn’t making sense but whatever. 

[OriolesMagic83]

We're basically the Cubs w/o the lovable aspect.

[Roll Tide]

2 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

I just don’t get what your overall point is about the old regime. Your point just isn’t making sense but whatever. 

I thought Elias would take this team philosophy from a swing the for fences low OBP bunch to a group more focused on working counts, getting on base, and making contact. It appeared that way to me before the wheels fell off around mid season. I’m sure it’s been exaggerated here but we can’t seem to score runs without hitting dingers. Do you get it now? 

[Sports Guy]

2 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

I thought Elias would take this team philosophy from a swing the for fences low OBP bunch to a group more focused on working counts, getting on base, and making contact. It appeared that way to me before the wheels fell off around mid season. I’m sure it’s been exaggerated here but we can’t seem to score runs without hitting dingers. Do you get it now? 

Yea now that you actually explained it in English, sure.  I think your entire perception is bs but I can understand why.

[Roll Tide]

22 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Yea now that you actually explained it in English, sure.  I think your entire perception is bs but I can understand why.

I expected nothing less!

[Just Regular]

21 hours ago, Aristotelian said:

We should not assume that Mayo and Holliday are going to be productive. Hope for the best but plan for the worst. We need to get used to the idea that prospects have risk and don't always pan out the way Gunnar and Adley did. 

I think this is right, but believe in early 2025 the move is to play them.

A shortcoming is I don't think the extra AAA polish works as well in today's game as when the Cardinals had a lot of success when Elias and SIg were coming up in the game, and Cardinals Devil Magic was a thing.

Anthony Santander wasn't ruined.    Zach Neto isn't ruined.    Bobby Witt - wow is he not ruined.    Every top tier Oriole I think would have been a better MLB performer this week with 25-50% more of a season, and that was a smartest guy in the room organizational choice.

Holliday and Mayo aren't Jackson Chourio, but they are some of the strongest young players around.    The best time in the season to eat a couple months of high .500's OPS is April and May.     The 2024 Tigers are an example how ineffective you can be half a season or more and stay relevant.

We can still have Mateo and Urias here if that happens, even if that gives Hyde a lot of explaining to do how the Sarasota depth chart looks.   Elias can make Hyde's life a little easier if he finds a couple hitting for pitching trades this winter.

[Aristotelian]

8 minutes ago, Just Regular said:

I think this is right, but believe in early 2025 the move is to play them.

A shortcoming is I don't think the extra AAA polish works as well in today's game as when the Cardinals had a lot of success when Elias and SIg were coming up in the game, and Cardinals Devil Magic was a thing.

Anthony Santander wasn't ruined.    Zach Neto isn't ruined.    Bobby Witt - wow is he not ruined.    Every top tier Oriole I think would have been a better MLB performer this week with 25-50% more of a season, and that was a smartest guy in the room organizational choice.

Holliday and Mayo aren't Jackson Chourio, but they are some of the strongest young players around.    The best time in the season to eat a couple months of high .500's OPS is April and May.     The 2024 Tigers are an example how ineffective you can be half a season or more and stay relevant.

We can still have Mateo and Urias here if that happens, even if that gives Hyde a lot of explaining to do how the Sarasota depth chart looks.   Elias can make Hyde's life a little easier if he finds a couple hitting for pitching trades this winter.

Agreed, I want to see them play, but without feeling like they need to be 5 WAR MOO guys right away. And I am not convinced that phasing them in as platoon players helps their development. Kjerstad should have had more than 20 AB vs LHP so that he is not overmatched when called to face the Bubices of the world in October. Gunnar still looks overmatched at times.