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He had tendonitis. You can have a clean and smooth delivery and still get tendonitis. And on top of that, its not a serious injury to the point of which you dont gain your velo back from. All it is is an inflamed tendon, something that occurs with overuse, or not necessarily even overuse, just pitching normally can cause tendonitis. I have had tendonitis in maultiple parts in my arm when I used to pitch....

And he still is projectable, he still has room in his frame to add more weight and gain more velo. You dont have to be in HS, some people develop later than others.

I agree with you on signing the top 10 pitchers aside from Berry. Id like to have Berry, but I wouldnt lose any sleep over it if we ended up not signing him. He doesnt seem much different than Berken.....

I agree he is still projectionable, and of course you don't have to be in HS to have projection, I was just stating that he is a JuCo guy and not a high school arm. Also, with an injury, where there's smoke, there's fire. So even though his injury is small, I hope he can avoid this type of stuff in the future. I really think Cowan could be a very good prospect, I'm excited that he's now part of the organization.

On to Berry, I think he has better secondary offerings than Berken, but his motion and injury history scare me. If his motion was cleaner and his risk of injury was low, then he'd be a no brainer, but as it stands now I wouldn't give him more than 600K. It'd be nice to have him, because he certainly has talent, but I'd be a little weary of giving him a big bonus.

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I agree he is still projectionable, and of course you don't have to be in HS to have projection, I was just stating that he is a JuCo guy and not a high school arm. Also, with an injury, where there's smoke, there's fire. So even though his injury is small, I hope he can avoid this type of stuff in the future. I really think Cowan could be a very good prospect, I'm excited that he's now part of the organization.

On to Berry, I think he has better secondary offerings than Berken, but his motion and injury history scare me. If his motion was cleaner and his risk of injury was low, then he'd be a no brainer, but as it stands now I wouldn't give him more than 600K. It'd be nice to have him, because he certainly has talent, but I'd be a little weary of giving him a big bonus.

If he has better secondaries then I would lean more toward him, but I also do not know if his fastball is as good as Berken's. I didnt know that Berken can dial it up to 95. I was under the impression that Berry didnt throw quite that hard....You may know..??

And yes I hear you about where ther's smoke theres fire, I just hope the injury was more fluky than a product of Cowan's delivery having trouble spots in it. This pick like many others in this draft reminds me a lot of the Bundy pick of 08...

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Berry's fastball is in the upper 80's to low 90's, but it has been described as "sneaky." Despite Berken's velocity, his fastball seems too straight, so I'd call it a wash. And I agree, this draft will have a lot of intriguing guys to follow.

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Berry's fastball is in the upper 80's to low 90's, but it has been described as "sneaky." Despite Berken's velocity, his fastball seems too straight, so I'd call it a wash. And I agree, this draft will have a lot of intriguing guys to follow.

I believe I remember Berry being said to have very very good pitchability. And he is able to compete even without his best stuff. Berken I agree has a straight fastball. I never really liked Berken much, I dont mind his shot though....

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I believe I remember Berry being said to have very very good pitchability. And he is able to compete even without his best stuff. Berken I agree has a straight fastball. I never really liked Berken much, I dont mind his shot though....

IIRC, Stotle has seen Berry pitch pre-injury and post injury, so maybe he could elaborate on what he saw. I'm sure he gave his thoughts in the draft day threads.

I guess for me it comes down to is if Berry is reasonable with his price. If he's asking for 800K+, then I'd be more inclined to try to buy Kyle Hoppy and Garrett Bush out of college. However, I think I'd be willing to give Berry late 2nd or third round money. It's certainly a risk, but at that price he could be a bargain.

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