Is MacPhail the right GM to take this team to the next level?

[JTrea81]

With the recent events of the this offseason or (lack there of) and the new information coming to light about the O's international efforts or lack there of, I think the question needs to be raised again.

Fact: He's never completed a 1 for 4 or 5 trade like he would have to to get a premium bat. Keep in mind while MacPhail is a master of trades, it's usually been when he trades an established player for a return of prospects.

Fact: He's never spent more than $27 million dollars on a single free agent that he has been able to land.

Fact: MacPhail is naturally conservative and cautious and does not like taking risks. Especially in the international area where he's said to favor the "needle in the haystack" approach than going after the known talent.

He has said he is more conservative than owner Peter Angelos.

Fact: MacPhail has never built a team that had sustained competitiveness.

Fact: Under Andy MacPhail, the Orioles have not drafted a ML ready position player and although they paid overslot for draftees in the 2009 draft, took what many scouts consider an inferior talent in the 1st round for signability reasons.

So is this really the guy that should be leading this team when all his strengths better apply to tearing one down than building it up?

Is MacPhail really the right GM to add the pieces and parts to get to the playoffs and keep us there?

[Lucky Jim]

With the recent events of the this offseason or (lack there of) and the new information coming to light about the O's international efforts or lack there of, I think the question needs to be raised again.

Keep in mind while MacPhail is a master of trades, it's usually been when he trades an established player for a return of prospects.

Fact: He's never completed a 1 for 4 or 5 trade like he would have to to get a premium bat.

Fact: He's never spent more than $27 million dollars on a single free agent that he has been able to land.

Fact: MacPhail is naturally conservative and cautious and does not like taking risks. Especially in the international area where he's said to favor the "needle in the haystack" approach than going after the known talent.

He has said he is more conservative than owner Peter Angelos.

Fact: MacPhail has never built a team that had sustained competitiveness.

Fact: Under Andy MacPhail, the Orioles have not drafted a ML ready position player and although they paid overslot for draftees in the 2009 draft, took what many scouts consider an inferior talent for signability reasons.

So is this really the guy that should be leading this team when all his strengths better apply to tearing one down than building it up?

Is MacPhail really the right GM to add the pieces and parts to get to the playoffs and keep us there?

Where are the positive facts?

[mspeller]

With the recent events of the this offseason or (lack there of) and the new information coming to light about the O's international efforts or lack there of, I think the question needs to be raised again.

Keep in mind while MacPhail is a master of trades, it's usually been when he trades an established player for a return of prospects.

Fact: He's never completed a 1 for 4 or 5 trade like he would have to to get a premium bat.

Fact: He's never spent more than $27 million dollars on a single free agent that he has been able to land.

Fact: MacPhail is naturally conservative and cautious and does not like taking risks. Especially in the international area where he's said to favor the "needle in the haystack" approach than going after the known talent.

He has said he is more conservative than owner Peter Angelos.

Fact: MacPhail has never built a team that had sustained competitiveness.

Fact: Under Andy MacPhail, the Orioles have not drafted a ML ready position player and although they paid overslot for draftees in the 2009 draft, took what many scouts consider an inferior talent for signability reasons.

So is this really the guy that should be leading this team when all his strengths better apply to tearing one down than building it up?

Is MacPhail really the right GM to add the pieces and parts to get to the playoffs and keep us there?

Time will tell. He has added some key pieces to the team.

[Stacey]

Where are the positive facts?

Fact: There are no positive facts because Andy MacPhail has no idea what he's doing.

[Moose Milligan]

Where are the positive facts?

Those are totally immaterial here, your honor.

[JTrea81]

Where are the positive facts?

Feel free to list them. It's a discussion board. Discuss your side.

[Moose Milligan]

Feel free to list them.

Why can't you list them?

Oh wait. You have an agenda. My bad.

[tywright]

Is JTrea the right poster to propose a question of this magnitude?

[Lucky Jim]

Feel free to list them. It's a discussion board. Discuss your side.

I didn't create a poll. Do you understand how polls work?

[Stacey]

Is JTrea the right poster to propose a question of this magnitude?

Fact: JTrea considers all sides when making an argument.

[JTrea81]

I didn't create a poll. Do you understand how polls work?

Yeah you can say "yes" or "no" or "I don't know" and defend your side.

So let's see your viewpoint.

[TiredofLosing20]

I actually think we are lucky that this poll included the answers YES and NOT SURE

[Moose Milligan]

Yeah you can say "yes" or "no" or "I don't know" and defend your side.

So let's see your viewpoint.

Trea, the minute you become objective here is the minute you'll get taken seriously on matters such as these.

If I'm a real casual fan, the one that watches a game here and there, doesn't really keep up on all offseason matters...and I log on here and see this poll and what you wrote the first thing I'd think is "Holy bejeebus! Andy MacPhail is tha debbil!"

Which is of course what you want people to think.

But then again, you don't care.

[orioles119]

Fact: JTrea considers all sides when making an argument.

Fact: JTrea will consider the opposing side then ignore it to no end.

[JTrea81]

I actually think we are lucky that this poll included the answers YES and NOT SURE

It's an open discussion. I'd like to see what people think given what has unfolded thus far.