Jump to content

Morosi: O's and Angels Have Discussed Guthrie Trade

Os84

By Os84
in Orioles Talk

Recommended Posts

oriole Veteran All-Star

oriole

Posted
Posted

So...a staff has one pitcher who can touch 200 innings which results in an overused and battered bullpen. Let's add this information that the plan for "pitching, pitching, pitching" is to not spend and take a ton of risks on international and 'come back' type players. What we have is a room full of crappy pitchers without an anchor to give the bullpen a rest.

Unless we're replacing Guthrie with Buerle, let's not do a trade. Not sure I understand the reasoning here...

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 102
  • Created
  • Last Reply
MrOrange82 Hangout Grand Counsel

MrOrange82

Posted
Posted
You hearing something there big guy??

The adorably optimistic (i.e., naive) part of me wants to say "oh boy, I hope so." But the pessimistic (i.e., the one that's followed the Orioles for years) part realizes that the only way Guthrie nets someone like Morales is if Morales' health is a legitimately unanswered, open question (i.e., he might play in 2012, and he might not...that's the gamble).

I remember reading reports months and months ago that assessing the impact of Morales' injury wasn't so simple as adding up the time he was likely to miss; rather, there was a chance he'd never play again. Is that not the case now?

At any rate, I'm extremely leery.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Hooded Viper Major Leaguer

Hooded Viper

Posted
Posted
The adorably optimistic (i.e., naive) part of me wants to say "oh boy, I hope so." But the pessimistic (i.e., the one that's followed the Orioles for years) part realizes that the only way Guthrie nets someone like Morales is if Morales' health is a legitimately unanswered, open question (i.e., he might play in 2012, and he might not...that's the gamble).

I remember reading reports months and months ago that assessing the impact of Morales' injury wasn't so simple as adding up the time he was likely to miss; rather, there was a chance he'd never play again. Is that not the case now?

At any rate, I'm extremely leery.

Well I think this franchise as a whole has done a pretty good job of finding players with potential, in the last several years. I would think DD would do his due diligence on any potential injuries and use that information to his advantage. For instance, maybe he is an injury risk but because of that he is able to get another player with a nice upside. But I believe Matthew W has hit on a couple of free agent signings/trades over the last season so I was hoping he had some more inside information to pass along. Just fishing really :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites
oriole Veteran All-Star

oriole

Posted
Posted

How does not playing baseball for 2 years affect your playing? How do we know he has kept up with conditioning...that he can maintain bat speed...that he remembers there are three outs in an inning?? But seriously...count me as a nonsupporter of attaining Morales.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Can_of_corn Hangout Grand Counsel

Can_of_corn

Posted
Posted
I dont know who said that Callaspo was a superb defender, because his fielding % was .959 at 3B...15 errors in 129 games.

OTOH

Reynolds fielding % at 3B was .897 and at 1B it was .987

OTOOH fielding % is a very limited stat and shouldn't be used as a sole determiner of a player's defensive ability particularly in small sample sizes.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
sangar All-Star

sangar

Posted
Posted
How does not playing baseball for 2 years affect your playing? How do we know he has kept up with conditioning...that he can maintain bat speed...that he remembers there are three outs in an inning?? But seriously...count me as a nonsupporter of attaining Morales.
Supposedly, he "looks fat." Reportedly, he is walking well and will begin full workouts in January. He likely will miss the start of the season.
Link to comment
Share on other sites
weams Hangout Grand Counsel

weams

Posted
Posted
Supposedly, he "looks fat." Reportedly, he is walking well and will begin full workouts in January. He likely will miss the start of the season.

Did his bone graft take well then? I am not worried about him being a bit heavy. At least he is not not Prince size.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
sangar All-Star

sangar

Posted
Posted
Did his bone graft take well then? I am not worried about him being a bit heavy. At least he is not not Prince size.
The Orange County Register had a story saying he is healthy and anxious to train but the Angels are not commenting. Sorry I can't find a link.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing


  • Posts

    • Sports Guy
      Walltimore

      By Sports Guy · Posted

      Good stuff. The bullpen does do a good job of getting groundballs and Bradish, GRod and Burnes are not flyball heavy pitchers although obviously GROd and Bradish have only been out there so much since the start of 2023 and Burnes is just 2024.  Still, they have kept those numbers down.
    • foxfield
      12 Questions for the Offseason

      By foxfield · Posted

      I twisted something and included Cohen.  That's my bad.  And I agree with almost all of this.  My post was more on tying the uber wealth of current ownership to simply having the ability to spend to any level.  The Orioles ownership group is one of the most powerful in all of sports.  I think they will make the Orioles more profitable and I think those profits will be reinvested in a way previous ownership did not. I do not anticipate, but would wildly applaud, ownership funding talent/salary increases out of pocket.  Thanks for the well articulated response.
    • DirtyBird
      JD Martinez

      By DirtyBird · Posted

      Or another drop-off. Which is more likely at 37?
    • Sports Guy
      12 Questions for the Offseason

      By Sports Guy · Posted

      I don’t think we have heard that at all. I believe Elias said that Mateo should be a full go for ST. If what you are saying is accurate, I would agree it’s not worth keeping him around. I just don’t think it’s accurate.
    • OriolesMagic83
      12 Questions for the Offseason

      By OriolesMagic83 · Posted

      Mateo is going to llikely miss the first part of the year and then be limited for much of the year d/t his elbow injury.  I think he won't be able to do much more than DH the early part of the year.  Is he worth signing just for 2025.  Imo, if the O's bring him back, it should be for 2 years.  It could be that Mateo is the backup 1B to Mayo, don't laugh.
    • Sports Guy
      JD Martinez

      By Sports Guy · Posted

      His statcast page is really good though. He could be a candidate for a bounce back and will likely be a relatively cheap signing. I don’t love the fit but I can see the justification for doing it.
    • Aglets
      2024 Ravens regular season discussion

      By Aglets · Posted

      Mathematically I'm sure they will get better just because they have been so bad against the pass so far this year I can't imagine it getting much worse. I'm not so sure they will take a step forward against the team that has scored the most points in the whole NFL next Sunday though.   😬 Our best defensive game so far was against Josh Allen and the Bills though so I guess anything is possible.  You would think we would be able to come up with some schemes to confuse a rookie QB.

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...