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soxhotcorner14 Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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I agree, but good luck convincing people of that. I have seen some unrealistic expectations flying around. Don't get me wrong, I would love for some moves to be made, but this situation is a difficult one.

If we wanted a Greinke or a Lee, we could of had them. But we'd be waving bye bye to Machado or Bundy. And this place would go up in flames if that happened.

The key guys to the trading deadline is to have more pieces like Bundy and Machado (disclaimer: I know all players aren't going to be of those two caliber, but you need players as close to their caliber to make deals happen). Then the O's will be right there in the big trades.

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First time in 15 years not to be loser and they do nothing.

Probably because they are smart enough to see that adding Headley, and Blanton doesn't push us to the playoffs, just separates us from talented players/prospects. I'm glad we didn't make any dumb moves.

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C- chips got Liriano and Victorino.

Yeah...don't care about Victorino but the Liriano deal is the only thing that kind of bothers me about this deadline. I would've been fine giving the same for him, + a little more, frankly.

But overall pretty happy we didn't do anything stupid. People who got their hopes up over this deadline--and actually wanted us to go all in--were pretty silly, it has to be said.

Probably because they are smart enough to see that adding Headley, and Blanton doesn't push us to the playoffs, just separates us from talented players/prospects. I'm glad we didn't make any dumb moves.

Yeah, this.

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Putting the cards on the table, I didn't want to lose Jake and Davis for Headley, and I could take or leave Blanton. I'm not real upset by any of that. I AM upset that DD couldn't find any Gaby Sanchez like deals out there though.

Does Gaby Sanchez push this team to the next level?

If not, then why give up some of our prospects?

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C- chips got Liriano and Victorino.

Have you personally went out and scouted the players that were involved in this trade? If so, please enlighten us on your discoveries. They're C- talent because they don't play in an organization that you're familiar with. Good talk though. I love when people dismiss everyone's talent just because they know nothing about it, but what they read off the interwebs.:rolleyestf:

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But I do.. I saw Guts and Liriano were had for practially nothing. Lots of action. You didn' thave to pull the trigger on the big trade, but you did need to get some more depth at the very least. The only thing I opposed was Blanton who I think brings little.

Guts was not going to end up back in Baltimore. Colorado was not going to do it. And people did not want Blanton, but they wanted Liriano? Liriano would have been a risk, and one that easily could have blown up in our faces. I would not have touched him and his 1.44 WHIP and 1.74 WHIP away from Minnesota. Glad he went to Chicago.

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Yeah...don't care about Victorino but the Liriano deal is the only thing that kind of bothers me about this deadline. I would've been fine giving the same for him, + a little more, frankly.

But overall pretty happy we didn't do anything stupid. People who got their hopes up over this deadline--and actually wanted us to go all in--were pretty silly, it has to be said.

You know I agree w/ being okay standing still. That said, if people want to throw blame around, the fact is that there were deals out there that would have likely been an improvement that didn't cost much. I think Liriano and Victorino both qualify. Neither cost anything significant.

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Rangers get Dempster for two Single A pitchers(not sure what their ceiling is)...Pirates make 3 or 4 moves...we get nothing because we are too poor to pay 3 million dollars.

I'm glad DD didn't give up any of the top 3 or 4 prospects we have......but Geezus Krist it sucks we didn't do anything at all.

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Have you personally went out and scouted the players that were involved in this trade? If so, please enlighten us on your discoveries. They're C- talent because they don't play in an organization that you're familiar with. Good talk though. I love when people dismiss everyone's talent just because they know nothing about it, but what they read off the interwebs.:rolleyestf:

C- is actually a pretty generous way to describe the guys Liriano netted.

further reading:

http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/blogs/164227596.html

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1277337-minnesota-twins-grading-the-francisco-liriano-trade

You know I agree w/ being okay standing still. That said, if people want to throw blame around, the fact is that there were deals out there that would have likely been an improvement that didn't cost much. I think Liriano and Victorino both qualify. Neither cost anything significant.

Yeah, I obviously agree on Liriano. Victorino, though, I totally understand not acquiring. That money is best saved, Victorino is a very minor upgrade.

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You know I agree w/ being okay standing still. That said, if people want to throw blame around, the fact is that there were deals out there that would have likely been an improvement that didn't cost much. I think Liriano and Victorino both qualify. Neither cost anything significant.

Again, you have NO idea what either GM was telling Duquette what they needed.

Just because the prospects that they got aren't highly known does not mean that the Twins or Phillies didn't like them.

We don't exactly have a slew of B prospects available. It's Schoop, Delmonico, the young arms, or nothing.

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