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Solstatic Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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Originally Posted by MemorialStadKid

That's your right and privilege to believe the apology. My life experience tells me otherwise.

Racists don't actually hide in the dark. Cowards hide in the dark.

Most people who have anti-Black prejudices are usually quite open about it (i.e. "I'm not racist but...") and generally find ways to explain their views behind anecdotes and justifications based on bad experiences.

This dude just "happened" to throw a banana at the only Black player on the Baltimore Orioles.

I believe in coincidence and serendipity, but the chances of this being an accident are akin to those of winning Powerball.

MSK

occam's razor, the simplest explanation is usually the right one

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Malike Hangout Grand Counsel

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Ask the Blacks in Oakland about racism in San Francisco.

Again, just because a place has a liberal reputation doesn't mean that a good portion of the population thinks Black people are equal citizens. For example, Boston has a liberal rep but is well known to be a place not hospitable to Blacks.

It's amazing this kind of thing has to be explained in 2013.

MSK

I've noticed I'm well received wherever I go. Then again, I don't have pants hanging down off my ass, gigantic tattoos of uzi's on my forearms, and wear bandana's in the red or blue variety.

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That's your right and privilege to believe the apology. My life experience tells me otherwise.

Racists don't actually hide in the dark. Cowards hide in the dark.

Most people who have anti-Black prejudices are usually quite open about it (i.e. "I'm not racist but...") and generally find ways to explain their views behind anecdotes and justifications based on bad experiences.

This dude just "happened" to throw a banana at the only Black player on the Baltimore Orioles.

I believe in coincidence and serendipity, but the chances of this being an accident are akin to those of winning Powerball.

MSK

Well, that's just being silly.

Refusing to even consider the possibility that this event was nothing more than a guy throwing something on the field probably says more about you than society. It's pretty arrogant for you to think you KNOW exactly what happened and the implications of it.

It might have been a racist act. It might not have been. It's pretty close-minded to have made up you mind before ANY of the specifics are known.

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I've noticed I'm well received wherever I go. Then again, I don't have pants hanging down off my ass, gigantic tattoos of uzi's on my forearms, and wear bandana's in the red or blue variety.

Neither do any of the Black people I know in SF and Oakland. But they have dealt with some nonsense over there.

MSK

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And maybe we have to trust AJ's assessment of what happened. He's the only guy who has lived his life and experienced what he's experienced. I represent tons of young black kids in criminal court, and I know I don't get it completely. Or even close.

I bet most every black male on this site could tell us stories and stories. DOESN'T MEAN THEIR INTERPRATON OF THE EVENTS IS ACCURATE, and they know that too. But there's a feel, because of experience. So, maybe give AJ the benefit of the doubt here.

The thing is that no matter how well-explained or reasoned your experience of racial bias will be, most folks will invariably give the White guy the benefit of the doubt.

It's always been that way.

MSK

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Not meant to add fuel but I am surprised no one made a SFran / banana joke yet.

Racism exists - politicians use it to gain power as a definition for or against .

Racism is not just the color of ones skin, just ask my Irish grandfather, who had a hard time finding employment because the Irish are drunks - or what a person told my wife what they felt about Catholics where we live (last year).

I fight with not being "racist" - when 9/11 happened I became "racist" against those in the Middle East, regardless of religion although I assumed "they" were all Muslim. I still fight with the hypocrisy, although I have never acted upon it... and, no, I don't believe losing folks in DC and NY is an excuse for me any longer.

The problem with "racism" is that it is way overused and has become its own industry and used at a battering ram if you don't like something as a political view. Actually, "racism" is not the correct word in most instances; it is disrespect. If we showed respect when deserved, the term "racism" would only be applied to those that believe they (or their group) are superior, due to, well, their inferiority complex.

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I appreciate your board but couldn't disagree more.

Just because the black guy said it is okay the white guy is throwing banana chips at him and making references to him acting like an animal does not make this okay. Period. It is horrendous. They are in a workplace. That is degrading. I am sorry but I strongly disagree with your assessment.

They are friends. Friends say all kind of heinous things to each other. Not one player, including Adam Jones thought it was anything more than jokes amongst friends. this is not Scott doing this to some rookie and the rookie scared to say anything, this is Scott joking around with his friend. Of course the act in a vacuum looks and sounds racist, and perhaps by the very definition of the word racism it was racist, but friends say and do all kinds of things to each other but that doesn't mean they are racist. I think your assessment of him is tainted by his politics which you don't agree with.

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