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First someone has to want Mora in return.

Well, unless things have changed(certainly possible), Belkast said the Phillies had interest and to my knowledge, they haven't corrected third base.

So, hopefully we are willing to eat enough contract or be ok with little return and move MelMo.

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Maybe the mariners will be taking back Payton, seems like they could use some extra help in the OF with Jones leaving.

Waiting in the wings for the Seattle Mariners is 23-year-old outfielder Wladimir Balentien, the 2007 Pacific Coast League Rookie of the Year who nearly matched teammate Adam Jones' numbers last season at Triple A Tacoma:

Jones 75 R, 25 HR, 84 RBI, 8 SB, .314 BA, .382 OBP, .967 OPS

Balentien 77 R, 24 HR, 84 RBI, 15 SB, .291 BA, .362 OBP, .871 OPS

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=529&stn=true&sid=t529

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Well, unless things have changed(certainly possible), Belkast said the Phillies had interest and to my knowledge, they haven't corrected third base.

So, hopefully we are willing to eat enough contract or be ok with little return and move MelMo.

Well they are both moving at a snails pace.

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Can someone please give me a good explanation on why the Inidans match up so well? Im looking over their roster and I just dont see it. Can the stat gurus here enlighten me on why the Indians would make sense?

I think it starts and ends with Miller. They have a top notch first piece and it's probably not to hard to find a coulpe other decent players to throw in.

Just my opinion

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While having Roberts could/would be a positive influence for some of the youngsters I don't think holding on to him is wise. He'll be 32 when his contract expires and it wouldn't make much sense to extend him at what he'll be able to get so we might as well maximize what we get in return. That means trading him sooner rather than later.

Believe me, I want Brob traded now, it would be the smartest thing to do, for the reasons you pointed out.

I just think Brob would want to stick around and be apart of a young team with a legit shot at the playoffs.

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Well, unless things have changed(certainly possible), Belkast said the Phillies had interest and to my knowledge, they haven't corrected third base.

So, hopefully we are willing to eat enough contract or be ok with little return and move MelMo.

Can't see the Phillies having interest in Mora, nor should they. They've got Greg Dobbs for 3B, who is a much better player than Mora (or at least should be).
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Waiting in the wings for the Seattle Mariners is 23-year-old outfielder Wladimir Balentien, the 2007 Pacific Coast League Rookie of the Year who nearly matched teammate Adam Jones' numbers last season at Triple A Tacoma:

Jones 75 R, 25 HR, 84 RBI, 8 SB, .314 BA, .382 OBP, .967 OPS

Balentien 77 R, 24 HR, 84 RBI, 15 SB, .291 BA, .362 OBP, .871 OPS

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=529&stn=true&sid=t529

True, but not a lot of depth after that. If Wlad bombs, and they are looking to contend this year a veteran like Payton wouldn't be the worst back up plan. I would definitely give Wlad a shot first though.

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First someone has to want Mora in return.

There is always a price for everything, it is just a matter of finding out what that price is. Heck, I could drop my car in the reservoir, drag it out, place it as is on my driveway, and put it up for sale. Eventually someone would buy it. The price is just going to be really low

Unfortunately, the return for Mora will probably be a lot less than the O's want, or they will have to eat a significant portion of his salary.

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Bedard + Penn for Jones, Clement, Triunfel, Tillman. ??

Sounds reasonable to me. Penn is still very young, stock has fallen here, might benefit from change of scenery.

As great as it would be to land those four prospects from Seattle, I would vomit in my mouth if Penn was a throw-in. It would be ridiculously stupid of the O's to trade Penn right now. His trade value is low. He fits in with the team's plan of stockpiling good young pitching talent. His stats in the minors indicate to me that he's a better bet to be a good SP in the league than almost any of the other young pitching prospects in the organization. Penn should not be a throw-in at this point in time. Just because he has had injury issues and a supposed 'attitude' problem does NOT mean that the team is free to discard him in any future rebuilding plans.

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I would prefer an Indians deal to a Cubs deal.

Miller as the better potential as opposed to Gallagher, and we already have 3-5 type starters.

Gutierrez could play LF and you could put Scott at DH

Barfield is still a great talent and the Indians would have no problem giving him up.

I think we should try and deal for Cedeno and Barfield. Maybe Payton and someone else for Cedeno. It would also depend on if we get Truinfel back, because then we wouldnt need Cedeno.

I would like to Cedeno and Barfield up the middle.

Of course, alot of things need to happen first, and we dont even know anything about the Indians at this point.

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