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No moves at all. A terrible signing (Gregg or Atkins type) thown in. I like the little moves. No big move as of yet.

If you look at the moves and non-moves in a vacuum, a D is understandable. When you look closer and see the horrible PR due to the failed physicals, the cutting of payroll while bringing in 25M more revenue, the declarations for making specified improvements to the team, an F is the only logical grade to me. Especially when we clearly have a limited window and have done nothing to make contention more likely, or extend the opportunity to do so.

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If you look at the moves and non-moves in a vacuum, a D is understandable. When you look closer and see the horrible PR due to the failed physicals, the cutting of payroll while bringing in 25M more revenue, the declarations for making specified improvements to the team, an F is the only logical grade to me. Especially when we clearly have a limited window and have done nothing to make contention more likely, or extend the opportunity to do so.

I'm still drinking the orangeade, I guess. I like that he tried (per Tony S and weams) to sign AJ with some solid coin. I like the little moves to replace McLouth, Webb, De Jesus and the flyer on Aceves. As Frobby said, Yoon is a Yawn at the moment with little to no expectations but we didn't saddle ourselves with big $$ contracts. But as Stotle has said, our window is closing after 2015 with the departures of Davis and Wieters. I give DD a C for staying above water. We really have no SP depth unless Saunders, Steve J and Britton finger the dike for a half season until Gausman feels comfortable. It still is exciting to imagine another magical season - kicking Tanaka's butt and watching Ellsbury go down in a heap (schadenfreude) with Matusz owning Papi again. Bring it on!

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It's a D for me. We have a good core and a window to compete. It is virtually impossible to look at what the team has done for the last 4 + months and feel like we have improved by more than a fraction at best and certainly not enough to feel like we have a good shot at the postseason.

This deep into the offseason (or is it over?), I still can't figure out our GM's plan. He says he has about 20% of his budget left to spend ($100 mil up from 80). There's a reason why the few options available are still left on the market. I have to assume that he grossly miscalculated the market and is left scrambling to fill key gaps -- not exactly a characteristic of a good "plan" and I fear we will panic and make bad decisions that will hurt the team's future.

There were good moves to make out there this offseason. We just didn't pull the trigger.

More than the individual moves, what bothers me the most is the lack of a clear vision. It doesn't bode well for this year or beyond.

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It's a C- / D+ for me. We marginally improved by maybe a game at best, or got slightly worse at worst (on paper it is hard for me to exactly judge it, but it feels like that range). We made some good risk vs. reward pickups, but nothing immediately spectacular to upgrade anywhere.

Like others have said, I'm down on this off season because we are just a few pieces away from having built a monster but aren't finishing it off. If feels like we have a dude that trained the last few years to run marathons, but in every year's race he runs 25 miles and quits. SO frustrating.

This would have been a good off season if we already had a 92 win playoff-contending team... but last season proved that we don't.

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D only because there is still a chance of bringing in a decent SP and we did not give $20M+ a year away for what I call a big name, decent talent FA year (except for Cano). If not, this offseason is a failure. We have only deducted talent with some return. We are now many pitcher's nightmare because of a physical (an unmitigated PR disaster) which may have chilling ramifications in the future as well. The additions I do like (Lough, Webb) are not winter centerpieces but nice, complimentary parts.

The worst part to me is that, contrary to all the hyperbole around here, I believe that DD has put forth the effort in making smart moves (trade JJ and $10M; return Balfour $7.5 = $2.5M return), let alone the Burnett's, Arroyo's, etc. that he has tried to bring in. He has money to spend even within a PA budget but the results have not been good. I find that troubling because it is difficult to completely understand why.

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Of course you didn't vote. You'd have to face reality and swallow your own words.

You know you can't vote A because you'd have to explain it, same thing with B and C.

You seem to live in total denial and Kool-Aid is your drug.

I read this board every day and the only thing more annoying than the FO is fans like you who can't seem to find any problems with ownership and management.

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I voted "C". I'm more interested in the "in season" grade as far as moves go, and next off-season. I've been critical, but right now I'd like to take a step back and acknowledge that while this is not the road I'd travel, I'll see where it leads the FO and the org. There's less ambiguity as far as the type of moves that should be made over the next 18 months or so, based on how the team performs and how a group of players progress.

I think the winter is a missed opportunity on the whole, but as has been pointed out I don't see significant negative value moves (e.g. losing a huge piece and not finding a replacement, or committing to a cumbersome contract that won't provide solid value and/or can't be moved). It's a little scary how bad things COULD go, but at the start of spring training I'll remain optimistic that the FO scrambles around this year and somehow holds it all together. Let's hope they bought enough duct tape!

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You seem to live in total denial and Kool-Aid is your drug.

I read this board every day and the only thing more annoying than the FO is fans like you who can't seem to find any problems with ownership and management.

85% of the votes are either D or F but yet there are a select few who are convinced that almost every poster is wearing orange tinted glasses. Talk about losing the forest for the trees.

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I gave the team a "D". I think we haven't done much other than adding a average relief pitcher and left fielder that we hope we will be mediocre. We lost our closer, our second baseman, our left fielder and a starting pitcher. I am not rating the guy from Korea. He had 4 ERA there last year but he had injuries. I think we failed to improve the team but we didn't make a horrible trade of a core player so they get the D. Also the Balfour situation was embarrassing and reminds me of the embarrassing GM search of a few years ago. Overall, I don't think the loses other than Feldman will be a big deal but we needed a DH and a starter and we did nothing.

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I voted "C". I'm more interested in the "in season" grade as far as moves go, and next off-season. I've been critical, but right now I'd like to take a step back and acknowledge that while this is not the road I'd travel, I'll see where it leads the FO and the org. There's less ambiguity as far as the type of moves that should be made over the next 18 months or so, based on how the team performs and how a group of players progress.

I think the winter is a missed opportunity on the whole, but as has been pointed out I don't see significant negative value moves (e.g. losing a huge piece and not finding a replacement, or committing to a cumbersome contract that won't provide solid value and/or can't be moved). It's a little scary how bad things COULD go, but at the start of spring training I'll remain optimistic that the FO scrambles around this year and somehow holds it all together. Let's hope they bought enough duct tape!

I pretty much agree with this. I only voted A because I wanted to see if people would complain about it and I wasn't disappointed. I think Gausmann will pitch just as good as Burnett so spending 16 million on him would of been a waste. i think the F should have been given out back in the summer giving up the supplemental pick. If you still have that pick it wouldn't be so bad giving up the first round pick now if you needed to for whomever.
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D only because there is still a chance of bringing in a decent SP and we did not give $20M+ a year away for what I call a big name, decent talent FA year (except for Cano). If not, this offseason is a failure. We have only deducted talent with some return. We are now many pitcher's nightmare because of a physical (an unmitigated PR disaster) which may have chilling ramifications in the future as well. The additions I do like (Lough, Webb) are not winter centerpieces but nice, complimentary parts.

The worst part to me is that, contrary to all the hyperbole around here, I believe that DD has put forth the effort in making smart moves (trade JJ and $10M; return Balfour $7.5 = $2.5M return), let alone the Burnett's, Arroyo's, etc. that he has tried to bring in. He has money to spend even within a PA budget but the results have not been good. I find that troubling because it is difficult to completely understand why.

I agree with almost all of this. The first bolded almost made me vote C. To have the warchest he had, all thru January, that takes some sly maneuvering.

But yes, a D because he never pulled the trigger. He still could and that's the next poll...

People put down all the minor moves DD makes. I LOVE them. He stocks the "75-man roster" better than any GM we've had. Heavy turnover since day 1. For two years the Norfolk shuttle has been incredibly busy. Juggling players and rosters is one of his forte's.

I think Balfour and Burnett are why we are still here in ST with no SP. I don't know who's right or wrong about GB but I don't care. If we had finished that deal... we would have had a pretty fast start. There were also reports Arroyo was a little scared off by that mess. The other factor, AJ never was interested in played here. Never. If the mystery poster was right we offered 2/30. He took 1/16. Not for lack of GOOD effort.

But still here we are in ST with no SP and freakin Gausman in the rotation! :angryfire:

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