Does Trout Deal Set The Market for Machado? (Update: 6/$144.5M)

[weams]

13, 16, 19

He may not have a third 8 WAR season.

[El Gordo]

I'm not saying Machado will suck. My statement just assumes that he's a poor base runner and yields below-average offense in the future. Is he even known for running the bases?

What has he done to make you assume that he is a poor base runner and below average hitter? Of the 21 qualifying 3B last year Manny was #8 in BsR and 12 in wOBA. He should improve with the bat. especially since Cabrera is now a 1B.

[El Gordo]

13, 16, 19

He produces 3 times as much WAR as Howard at a younger age and he gets 2M more with inflation? Ridiculous. He would start at at least 15 M IMO.

[weams]

He produces 3 times as much WAR as Howard at a younger age and he gets 2M more with inflation? Ridiculous. He would start at at least 15 M IMO.

Has anyone ever? Were they right to give that to Howard?

[DrungoHazewood]

Has anyone ever? Were they right to give that to Howard?

Why should historic performances be paid on a scale based on far inferior performances? Trout breaks the old paradigms.

[Can_of_corn]

Has anyone ever? Were they right to give that to Howard?

What did the Phillies counter with in that case?

[skanar]

What did the Phillies counter with in that case?

$7M, per MLBTR

[El Gordo]

Has anyone ever? Were they right to give that to Howard?

Doesn't matter it's the only precedent If Trout were to ask 15 M say after finally winning the MVP with his third 10 WAR season what do you think his chances of losing to a 10 M bid from the LAA? The odds are better that he wins the MVP and puts up another 10 WAR, than he would get less than 15 M IMO. LAA did the deal in part because going into arbitration would have put him quickly out of reach.

[Can_of_corn]

$7M, per MLBTR

Thanks.

I have to admit I would have felt fairly comfortable about going in with a seven million dollar offer.

[weams]

Why should historic performances be paid on a scale based on far inferior performances? Trout breaks the old paradigms.

I don't know how that would work. Evidently Mr Cameron says he does.

[weams]

Thanks.

I have to admit I would have felt fairly comfortable about going in with a seven million dollar offer.

They must have been looking at home run totals, not WAR.

[Can_of_corn]

They must have been looking at home run totals, not WAR.

RBI and TWTW.

[weams]

Doesn't matter it's the only precedent If Trout were to ask 15 M say after finally winning the MVP with his third 10 WAR season what do you think his chances of losing to a 10 M bid from the LAA? The odds are better that he wins the MVP and puts up another 10 WAR, than he would get less than 15 M IMO. LAA did the deal in part because going into arbitration would have put him quickly out of reach.

Losing to a 12 million dollar offer? I think he would lose. And he may not put up 8 WAR and he may not win the MVP and with power on the decline, the shift towards 40 and 50 home run hitters as the most valuable may occur.

[weams]

RBI and TWTW.

I'm not sure that Trout matches in TWTW. He might have lost that arbitration battle. Something no one is willing to consider.

[BradyBunch]

Rickey made 46 million dollars in his career.

Adjust for inflation and increase money in TV deals and his numbers go up.

For example his 1994 salary was $4.8m. Adjusted for inflation his current salary would be $7.4m.