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waroriole Hangout Grand Counsel

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Anyone else think that game was a bit fixed? I mean Kuroda gives up two HR right of the bat, then is dominant. Jeter gets a pitch to answer back with a 2 R HR and almost gets it. We rally to tie it and then Jeter walks off. I have a hard time believing this wasn't planned at some level.

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Why should we be happy that the Orioles lost a game? Why would we want to be on the wrong end of a "storybook moment" for another team? Especially after the team fought like hell to get back into the game?

I love Buck, but putting the worst pitcher in his bullpen in the game after his offense rallied from three runs down in the top of the ninth was a terrible decision.

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Flame away. I stand by that statement.

Everybody holding their breath and stomping their feet. Hilarious.

All the joking aside, I understand what you are going for. Though I am not enjoying this moment right now (and like many others dreading the inability to casually watch MLB Network) it is going to be something that we can look back later as baseball fans and respect him as a player. I remember when Scott Brosius hit that game tying home run off Kim in the 2001 World Series, game 5, and I was absolutely devastated and disgusted at the time, but now I watch replays or the MLB Network special they did on that series and just think it is a great moment in an incredibly exciting World Series.

I think everyone is just exhausted with all the attention and, for some, even the concept of farewell tours. U.S. History might have been a bit hyperbolic, but I think you are right that this will be a memorable baseball moment, especially for New York Yankee fans.

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US history? It's not even the most important hit of Jeter's career. It is what is and why I am not too upset. A pretty much meaningless hit by a guy on a team out of contention against a team already clinched using its B) bullpen. Good for Jeter I guess but let's not act like this was an amazing accomplishment. Storybook ending no doubt but this isn't one of those things that belongs in baseball lore.

This will be a required clip in every non team-specific baseball montage for the next dozen years. It would really be great if the Orioles weren't the straight men for this particular punch line. The notion that this is a great moment is US history is ludicrous. The belief that there is some pop culture mojo attached isn't.

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Anyone else think that game was a bit fixed? I mean Kuroda gives up two HR right of the bat, then is dominant. Jeter gets a pitch to answer back with a 2 R HR and almost gets it. We rally to tie it and then Jeter walks off. I have a hard time believing this wasn't planned at some level.

I cannot imagine that was planned. The inside pitch on Jones and then the Tomahawk swing to send one out? No way. IMO.

Regardless I do not think the game thread was that bad and I do think the Jeter year long celebration was over-the-top for what he has done.

But in the end I still think that times are changing. Go O's.

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This will be a required clip in every non team-specific baseball montage for the next dozen years. It would really be great if the Orioles weren't the straight men for this particular punch line. The notion that this is a great moment is US history is ludicrous. The belief that there is some pop culture mojo attached isn't.

Oh I agree there. I just think he's wrong to call it a great moment in US history.We'll be seeing it for years to come and I think that's why it poes a lot of people. Its significance is going to be greatly overstated.

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You need to take a breath. You know Buck has his bullpen innings scripted the rest of the way. He's not going to walk Jeter, obviously, no manager in the game would or should.

He clearly had a bullpen plan this game and stuck to it.

I've taken plenty of breaths.

It was monumentally stupid.... if the goal was to win the baseball game.

Buck is too smart to pull some crap like that.

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You need to take a breath. You know Buck has his bullpen innings scripted the rest of the way. He's not going to walk Jeter, obviously, no manager in the game would or should.

He clearly had a bullpen plan this game and stuck to it.

Eh....I think Hank and others have a point just not sure why Buck went that way....

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I've taken plenty of breaths.

It was monumentally stupid.... if the goal was to win the baseball game.

Buck is too smart to pull some crap like that.

Buck played in to the story line IMO. He basically gave Jeter the opportunity with a bad pitcher and the rest is history. Everyone got what they wanted media-wise.

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