Official Winter Meetings Thread

[Austin]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>PSA: spending doesn't guarantee you'll win but if you won a WS I guarantee you spent. Top 10 payrolls win titles. Just a reminder <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MLB?src=hash">#MLB</a></p>— Ken Weinman (@KenWeinmanSport) <a href="

">December 11, 2014</a></blockquote>

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At least someone in the Baltimore media gets it.

The Kansas City Royals and their sub-100 million dollar payroll were literally one hit away from winning the World Series this year. The playoffs are a crap shoot.

[LoyalBirdFan]

Pretty sure that's what I am saying. The fact is Tillman, Chen, and Norris pitched toe to toe with Scherzer, Verlander, and Price even though the latter have a much higher pedigree. Yes, Detroit was undid by their pen and lack of D. That's the whole point. I'm willing to not have the big name if it means I can have a quality D and above average pen.

:agree:

[sportsfan8703]

LOL Now Chen is a ace only oriole fans.

That's true. But he's going to get at least 4/48 if he has his usual type year. And thats the floor.

[Palmoripken]

Nice summary and an outlook I'm largely comfortable with. I would have liked the club to go out on the ledge and added Miller to make the quality pen an elite pen.

I like Miller but I don't know how I feel about giving a reliever 9 mill a year for four years given how unpredictable relief pitching is. Granted if Britton had completely bombed as closer, I'd probably be singing a different tune. I'm actually pretty optimistic going forward. I don't feel that we're in danger of entering mediocrity like we did following '97 since we're building a system.

[Guest]

The Kansas City Royals and their sub-100 million dollar payroll were literally one hit away from winning the World Series this year. The playoffs are a crap shoot.

Did they win? All They did was get hot for 3 weeks.

[DrungoHazewood]

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At least someone in the Baltimore media gets it.

I love the "won a WS" stuff. As if making the playoffs and winning the series has any substantive difference in team quality. Just a couple months ago the teams in the ALCS were both outside the top 10 by tens of $millions, and the Rays, Pirates, and A's have been very strong contenders lately with payrolls that don't make the top 20. This kind of statement takes a weak correlation and tries to twist it into an unassailable fact.

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[Austin]

Did they win? All They did was get hot for 3 weeks.

So you're saying the reason the Giants won a one-run game 7 is because of their payroll? That's why the Royals weren't able to drive in Alex Gordon in the 9th inning?

[Guest]

I love the "won a WS" stuff. As if making the playoffs and winning the series has any substantive difference in team quality. Just a couple months ago the teams in the ALCS were both outside the top 10 by tens of $millions, and the Rays, Pirates, and A's have been very strong contenders lately with payrolls that don't make the top 20. This kind of statement takes a weak correlation and tries to twist it into an unassailable fact.

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Sorry winning the WS is what the players play for not just make the playoffs.

[DrungoHazewood]

Did they win? All They did was get hot for 3 weeks.

Are you actually suggesting that it was payroll and talent that separated the O's and Royals and Pirates from the Giants? Of course you are.

[TheDirtyBird]

[sportsfan8703]

Found a stream for the Rule 5 draft. http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/40172882/v37035539/20141211-2014-rule-5-draft-mlbtv

[25 Nuggets]

Did they win? All They did was get hot for 3 weeks.

The Giants did win and they were 69-62 heading into September.

[DrungoHazewood]

Sorry winning the WS is what the players play for not just make the playoffs.

Obviously they do. Your mistake is assuming that there is a meaningful difference between a team that makes the playoffs and a team that happens to win the Series. There isn't.

[Rene88]

A fake article seems to be circulating on social media: http://www.whynotgivehimthebusiness.com/dan-duquette-speaks-out-against-orioles-owner-peter-angelos/

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[Guest]

So you're saying the reason the Giants won a one-run game 7 is because of their payroll? That's why the Royals weren't able to drive in Alex Gordon in the 9th inning?

I'm saying the payroll help them win 4 games in a 7 game series not just 1 play.