Would you sign Manny for 11/$231 mm?

[Redskins Rick]

So 50 million a year? When no one has broken 28 million? Wha?

I thought Price was at 31 million?

[weams]

The bidding for MM starts at 5/100. I hope PGA will do at least 7/175 this off season. PGA needs to be involved.

There is no bidding. For two more years. It's "Do you want 10/300 or not." There is nothing else. No opt out. No nothing.

[weams]

I thought Price was at 31 million?

You are right. He is.

[Redskins Rick]

There is no bidding. For two more years. It's "Do you want 10/300 or not." There is nothing else. No opt out. No nothing.

I do not understand the desire to lock Manny up, when he is already locked up, for now.

[El Gordo]

Thanks for clarifying, MuprhDogg, didn't realize it would have to cover the next two seasons too. So yes, 5/180 would be what I was getting at.

My concern with a 10/300 deal is paying for decline, quite frankly. I'd rather give him half the money but $50mil AAV for 3 years where he's still south of 30 rather than having to pay him for several years of his 30s but lower AAV.

If you are offering him 10/300 M today, in 10 years he will be in age 33 season. Hardly his decline. Which is why he wouldn't accept 10/300 M, he will be worth 250 M+ in production over the next 5.

[crowmst3k!]

Yeah...no.

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[El Gordo]

So 50 million a year? When no one has broken 28 million? Wha?

If Manny were a FA this year, you think he would get less than Heyward? I think he'd get more than Price. In 2018 way more than Price.

[bluedog]

I don't think that 10 / 300 is going to get it done assuming Manny continues to improve over the next three years. I think we're going to see Manny get an absolutely insane contract.

Nothing will shock me. I wouldn't count out a 500M deal.

[srock]

People talk about paying whatever it takes to sign Manny...

I'm not paying 50M per.

Assuming a win costs 9M during the time period in question, Manny would still have to average over 5 and a half wins a year.

Manny was worth 6.8 wins (according to FanGraphs WAR) putting him at #8 on the MLB list for WAR in 2015.

At age 23.

So there is data to support his value at over $50 million a year.

Precedent, injury risk, and the arbitration system means the Orioles shouldn't need to pay him $50 million a year, thankfully.

[ledzepp8]

You think that was his career year at age 22? Besides one WAR will be worth more than 8 M in 2018.

Yeah because that's what I said.

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[Can_of_corn]

Manny was worth 6.8 wins (according to FanGraphs WAR) putting him at #8 on the MLB list for WAR in 2015.

At age 23.

So there is data to support his value at over $50 million a year.

Precedent, injury risk, and the arbitration system means the Orioles shouldn't need to pay him $50 million a year, thankfully.

Didn't say it couldn't happen.

Banking on 5.5 as your break even point is higher than I would be willing to go.

[MurphDogg]

Didn't say it couldn't happen.

Banking on 5.5 as your break even point is higher than I would be willing to go.

Yeah, I don't think players are going to get full $/WAR at the top end. The injury risk is too high to spend that much for one player.

[weams]

Didn't say it couldn't happen.

Banking on 5.5 as your break even point is higher than I would be willing to go.

If no one here think Manny would or should sign for 10 years 300 million today, I don't know what to say. Let's just stop talking about him then until he gets traded.

[atomic]

Uh no way. Not a dollar over 25 million a year.

[atomic]

Follow up question, then -- do you think the Yankees do something like this, given their horrible luck recently on long-term contracts?

No and they won't have to. He isn't getting 50 million a year.