Has Buck lost control of the clubhouse (and his senses)?

[Old#5fan]

For all the talk of his stress of defense and fundamentals, the team has had a festering goo of mental mistakes all year, and his decision making in close games has been abysmal. And none of the problems seem to get corrected.

Throwing to the wrong bases

Missing the cutoff man (Hello Mr. Parra)

A total inability to hit behind the runner and advance a player from second to third

Manny and his 10 throwning errors because he continues to like to showboat and pose for the cameras on every easy routine groundball.

Pitchers repeatedly failing to cover first base (Hello Mr. Britton)u

Hitters bunting on their own, in situations that they should not be bunting (De Aza, Parmalee, Schoop, Parra), and it just keeps happening

and today, pinch hitting Matt Wieters (excuse me is he a good hitter) for your only healthy SS when you already have the lead.

Pinch running for Hardy with 2 outs and Adam (yep I'm going to tense up and swing at a pitch that bounces on the plate) in a clutch situation Jones.

Leaving noodle arm Henry Urritia in left field for the 9th inning and watching a runner score from second on a throw from just behind SS. Meanwhile Riemold and his plus arm are on the bench. And in what universe is Urritia in anyway a better player than Riemold?

and then in the fateful last inning with Matusz pitching against RH hitters not putting Schoop at 3B and Paredes at second.

This is easy stuff Buck

Perhaps he has been in the sun for too long

and why oh why wasn't Hardy DL'ed a week ago. Why are we fighting to keep perhaps the worst hitter in the major leagues on the 25 man roster?

I agree with you on everything as his managing or lack thereof in one run games has been terrible this season !! Almost every other move he makes us either highly questionable or even flat out wrong! I still can't get over his walking the bases loaded and putting the winning run on third against the Angels and then this series against the Twins he's been the worst all year! Why doesn't he pull the infield in when Britton is pitching against teams with speedy contact hitters like the Twins instead of letting them steal two games because the infielders are so far back they have no chance against those infield chop? How about managing to the situation?

[PaceofPlay]

Managers can't win you games, but they surely can lose'em. I would not be opposed to seeing Buck S being moved to the GM position and getting a young up-and-coming manager with good X's and O's skills and an ability to connect with today's players.

All because the one g*oddamn series ?

[MDtransplant757]

He did screw up. But hopefully after getting the snot kicked out of us, we'll be a better ball club for it. Or revert to 2005, and just roll over and die.

[SteveO]

I agree with you on everything as his managing or lack thereof in one run games has been terrible this season !! Almost every other move he makes us either highly questionable or even flat out wrong! I still can't get over his walking the bases loaded and putting the winning run on third against the Angels and then this series against the Twins he's been the worst all year! Why doesn't he pull the infield in when Britton is pitching against teams with speedy contact hitters like the Twins instead of letting them steal two games because the infielders are so far back they have no chance against those infield chop? How about managing to the situation?

So lets see....a bunch of posters pick out a few questionable moves, mind you, something that every manager does if you dissect their every move, and now you all think you have the stones to call him "terrible" in one run games.

Yea so his fellow managers, GM's and scouts respect the hell out him, voted him the 2nd best in the game and you all think he is terrible in 1 run games.....what joke. You all should frankly be ashamed of yourselves and the what have you done lately for me attitude.

Yes I think a few moves have been things that I was not a fan of but to go from questioning those specific moves to "I agree with you on everything as his managing or lack thereof in one run games has been terrible this season !! " is just a leap in logic that makes no sense whatsoever and has zero basis in fact or reality.

But yea.....don't let the fact that Buck has proven over and over he is one of the smartest baseball minds around interrupt that fantasy or compel you all to put down your pitchforks.

Sorry this whole thread is utterly stupid.

[Old#5fan]

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So lets see....a bunch of posters pick out a few questionable moves, mind you, something that every manager does if you dissect their every move, and now you all think you have the stones to call him "terrible" in one run games.

Yea so his fellow managers, GM's and scouts respect the hell out him, voted him the 2nd best in the game and you all think he is terrible in 1 run games.....what joke. You all should frankly be ashamed of yourselves and the what have you done lately for me attitude.

Yes I think a few moves have been things that I was not a fan of but to go from questioning those specific moves to "I agree with you on everything as his managing or lack thereof in one run games has been terrible this season !! " is just a leap in logic that makes no sense whatsoever and has zero basis in fact or reality.

But yea.....don't let the fact that Buck has proven over and over he is one of the smartest baseball minds around interrupt that fantasy or compel you all to put down your pitchforks.

Sorry this whole thread is utterly stupid.

They talked about it on the MASN and showed stats how terribly bad the Orioles have become in one run games since last season when they wee good. Biggest drop off of any team and yes, some of that has to fall on managerial decisions or lack thereof. I hate to think he is getting senile or succumbing to the pressure but he doesn't seem like the A game Buck anymore at all!

[SteveO]

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They talked about it on the MASN and showed stats how terribly bad the Orioles have become in one run games since last season when they wee good. Biggest drop off of any team and yes, some of that has to fall on managerial decisions or lack thereof. I hate to think he is getting senile or succumbing to the pressure but he doesn't seem like the A game Buck anymore at all!

Yea ok. I am sure that Buck who is 59 is going senile lol....ok

Buck strikes me as a guy who knows he does not have the horses to pull this thing off and is starting to take some chances that would not normally be in his nature as a result. In short he is managing like he is desperate and given the level of performance from everyone other than a handful of guys, I don't blame him.

I think Buck wants to win more than anything. I also think that it's gotta be killing Buck that a team that ended the year with so much promise last year, is where it is today. This is the core of this teams last harrah, Buck put a lot of time and effort into making them winners, to see it coming to an end like this has to really suck. So while I agree that some of his moves in recent weeks seem almost desperate, I think its the execution of the player that is largely responsible for our record in one run games.

[LA2]

Molitor almost over managed today.He left himself in the bullpen with almost no options. Basically he had to go to a hurt closer and a starter. The Twins made mistakes today also. Twice they threw home with no chance at the runner.Both times the runners on base advanced

The Orioles just did not break the game open.Pelfrey had nothing today. Watching him on the mound you could see he was frustrated. He kept shaking his head and stomping on the mound.Orioles could not deliver a knockout blow.

I saw some lack of hustle today.One player seems to care more about press clippings then winning. Almost no killer instinct.Seems like some players don't realize they are in a pennant race and not to make stats look good.

Funny thing is still have a chance but this week is it.Jones even said as much after the game.

Yeah, but wasn't it amazing the way Molitor got those puny infield squibbers and swinging bunts to roll so slowly or just out of reach of every charging, twisting Oriole infielder, especially in the 8th yesterday against O

Day and today against Britton? Wish Buck taught how to do that or devised a new infield-grass up-shift, something like a semi-circle around your set-up man and closer. That would have given us a series split right there!

[25 Nuggets]

Yeah, but wasn't it amazing the way Molitor got those puny infield squibbers and swinging bunts to roll so slowly or just out of reach of every charging, twisting Oriole infielder, especially in the 8th yesterday against O

Day and today against Britton? Wish Buck taught how to do that or devised a new infield-grass up-shift, something like a semi-circle around your set-up man and closer. That would have given us a series split right there!

And him getting tossed arguing Sano's check swing, that was genius too.

[Crazysilver03]

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They talked about it on the MASN and showed stats how terribly bad the Orioles have become in one run games since last season when they wee good. Biggest drop off of any team and yes, some of that has to fall on managerial decisions or lack thereof. I hate to think he is getting senile or succumbing to the pressure but he doesn't seem like the A game Buck anymore at all!

So it can't just be players not performing?

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[clapdiddy]

Yeah, but wasn't it amazing the way Molitor got those puny infield squibbers and swinging bunts to roll so slowly or just out of reach of every charging, twisting Oriole infielder, especially in the 8th yesterday against O

Day and today against Britton? Wish Buck taught how to do that or devised a new infield-grass up-shift, something like a semi-circle around your set-up man and closer. That would have given us a series split right there!

This is very true. Every break went the Twins' way in this series. They did outplay us by taking advantage of every break they got.

[Old#5fan]

Yeah, but wasn't it amazing the way Molitor got those puny infield squibbers and swinging bunts to roll so slowly or just out of reach of every charging, twisting Oriole infielder, especially in the 8th yesterday against O

Day and today against Britton? Wish Buck taught how to do that or devised a new infield-grass up-shift, something like a semi-circle around your set-up man and closer. That would have given us a series split right there!

Well with a speedy contact hitting team like the Twins why not pull the infield in as they just went up there making contact and using their speed and it paid off

[MDtransplant757]

Well with a speedy contact hitting team like the Twins why not pull the infield in as they just went up there making contact and using their speed and it paid off

Good point. we didn't do that to KC in the ALCS last year either.

[webbrick2010]

The rally started when Britton didn't cover first base, and that is not the first time that Britton failed to cover first base this year. That was the tenure of my original post, Buck is not fixing repeating mental lapses, stupid bunts, missing cutoff men, not covering first, and giving Manny a pass on his showboating on routine ground outs. Manny seems to take extra time just so he can gun down the runner by a 1/2 step instead of making an easy play an easy play. And no one seems to be reading him the riot act, whether it is Buck or Adam Jones the showboating needs to stop.

[SteveO]

Good point. we didn't do that to KC in the ALCS last year either.

Clearly the reason that we lost the ALCS is Buck. Clearly we did not get a split this weekend because of Buck. The guys who could not catch, hit or pitch at times in both instances had nothing at all to do with it lol....

I am shocked that you all have not blamed Buck for global warming yet. #pitchforksraised

[MrOrange82]

I agree. The best part is that he was just voted the best manager by his peers in the last two weeks. The irony is awesome. Webbrick knows more than all of them.

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I'd argue that there's a difference between criticism and what's happened ITT.