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ReclaimTheCrown Major Leaguer

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Two runs in six innings should get it done for this team.

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It's this, guys. Gallardo isn't wowing anymore, but he can arguably still be serviceable. If Buck pulls him when any being with the mental capacity north of a moderately educated primate knows he should've been pulled, YG has a decent line tonight and we win.

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ChuckS Hangout Grand Counsel

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It appears Gallardo's upside now is that of a serviceable fifth starter.

His low side is.....don't even want to think of it. Shameful that we gave up 2/22 mil and the 14th overall pick for this.

The only hope is that he picks up another couple MPH on his fastball and can return the # 3ish starter he has been over the past several seasons. Considering his career trajectory with fastball velocity that is not very likely. Meanwhile, Matt Latos is looking very good in Chicago.

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For the record I wanted Latos who's' pitching well early and only cost 1 year at 3 Million and no draft pick.

Anybody who had a lick of sense would have realized that the Orioles needed to sign two starting pitchers. They were losing their best pitcher in Chen. Even if they replaced Chen with a pitcher as good as him, the starting rotation still wouldn't be much better than last year's rotation. All of the same pitchers would be returning plus the #5 pitcher would remain a huge question mark. Now it's too late. They just have to make the best out of a far less than optimal situation.

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I don't disagree with everybody who wanted Latos instead of Gallardo (as did I, especially considering the price), but don't get ahead of ourselves regarding his effectiveness.

Latos was similarly horrific in spring training (10.38 ERA, 13 IP, 23 H, 9 K, 6 BB). He's had two starts in which he's only allowed 1 run but he's down almost 2 MPH, to 89.3 on his fastball. Faster than Gallardo obviously, but he's much more reliant on his fastball than Gallardo is. He's only struck out 6 in 12 innings and has allowed a very high contact %. He could easily be a waste of money as well, plus the clubhouse character concerns.

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A couple times. The overwhelming majority were mid 80s.

And a lot of those were belt high and over the plate. I think the Rangers were jumping out of their shoes to hit his fastball. I missed the 5th and couldn't believe he was still pitching in the 6th. His results are going to start looking like Norris 2015 unless he starts getting better control or magically gains back some velocity.

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Pitching in warm weather and is struggling to hit 88. Command is just not there. Most pitches at 84-86. It seems his velocity has been going down each start. I was hoping as season progressed he'd gain some velocity. But that hasn't been the case.

What do you mean by "was hoping as the season progressed"? I'm confused, that's past tense but it's April 17th.

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Sir_Loin Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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Remember Gallardo said he is now throwing a cut fastball that's probably what everyone sees as 85-87mph. His 4 seam fastball when he throws it looked to be 88-90 last night.

Face it, he isn't the mid 90s guy he used to be. He is what he is, if he can keep us in games and does it with lower velocity so be it. I don't think it was right to sign him with that draft pick attached, but look at the alternatives. Gallardo has been durable, Latos is a head case and that's why he has bounced around (and injuries), other guys were expensive. Let's hope we can trade for a legit arm at the break, SD has some arms, maybe the Twins, or Braves. It's early, let's see what happens.

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