Lets go get swept at the Trop!

[bobmc]

1 hour ago, pdiddy said:

Ricardo "Khan" Montelban!

Dang - I had Fernando Lamas on my mind - wow! Brain cells asunder - I keep doing xwords and taking my CoQ10....  but thanks guys! 

[bobmc]

1 hour ago, pdiddy said:

https://www.google.com/amp/norewardisworththis.tumblr.com/post/64845798933/snl-quien-es-mas-macho-sketch-from-21719/amp

 

 

Muy bien gracias - Cordoba! y Montalban es mas macho para mi!

That was a great step back in time to see Gilda and Murray there!

[bobmc]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

I also recall the leather being rich not dark.

Wasn't it "fine" and not rich?  Some of my brain cells are awakening....

[Can_of_corn]

5 minutes ago, bobmc said:

Wasn't it "fine" and not rich?  Some of my brain cells are awakening....

 

[bobmc]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

 

Muy macho! 

[BoltonBob]

23 hours ago, ArtVanDelay said:

It’s 3 meaningless games.  Who cares?  Might as well improve our draft position/pool. 

NO WAY!! 

[$Greatness$]

On 9/28/2017 at 1:01 PM, ArtVanDelay said:

I have 11,000 posts on an Orioles message board.  Pretty sure I’m not a casual........

That just doesn’t make any sense.  I want the Orioles to have improved draft position and pool money, so that makes me a casual fan?

No, it doesn't. Wanting them to lose, in my personal opinion makes you a casual fan. Yes the games are meaningless now, but I never want to see my team lose no matter the reason. They improve their draft position and get pool money then what? We get another Matt Hosbgood and and its all for not. Just keep winning and everything else will fall into place. Just draft a World-Beater with your current selection in the order. Just keep winning.

[gmelson26]

The argument that one isn't a true fan, if they want the better draft pick or a good trade in the event of that they are out of the playoffs, comes off as insulting and overly- crudely- simplistic.

Would you rather win 500 games in 6 years or 475 and a WS in 6 years?  You play to win championships.  Period.  The team that wins the WS with 88 wins gets the same WS trophy as the 105 game WS winner. 

My point is this: you don't play to simply blindly win as many games as possible, no matter what.  Every year, playoff teams will rest their big guns to line up their rotations and rosters for a better chance to win in the playoffs, if they aren't still competing for their playoff slot.  They rest their starters knowing it won't give them as good a chance at winning the last few regular season games.  They aren't trying to win every single game no. matter. what. 

I don't really see how trying to get a better draft pick is much different.  It's looking at the end goal (winning championships) and doing what's in the best interest of obtaining said goal.  Now, I'm not suggesting deliberately throwing a game.  I expect professional athletes to give it their all and try to win the game.. all 27 outs.  But the manager and GM need to look ahead, play some young guys from AA or AAA.. see what they have.  Whoops, we got swept.

The idea that a fan who's strategically looking ahead for whatever slight advantages a team might be able to get going forward is the casual fan is laughable. 

[24fps]

37 minutes ago, gmelson26 said:

The argument that one isn't a true fan, if they want the better draft pick or a good trade in the event of that they are out of the playoffs, comes off as insulting and overly- crudely- simplistic.

Would you rather win 500 games in 6 years or 475 and a WS in 6 years?  You play to win championships.  Period.  The team that wins the WS with 88 wins gets the same WS trophy as the 105 game WS winner. 

My point is this: you don't play to simply blindly win as many games as possible, no matter what.  Every year, playoff teams will rest their big guns to line up their rotations and rosters for a better chance to win in the playoffs, if they aren't still competing for their playoff slot.  They rest their starters knowing it won't give them as good a chance at winning the last few regular season games.  They aren't trying to win every single game no. matter. what. 

I don't really see how trying to get a better draft pick is much different.  It's looking at the end goal (winning championships) and doing what's in the best interest of obtaining said goal.  Now, I'm not suggesting deliberately throwing a game.  I expect professional athletes to give it their all and try to win the game.. all 27 outs.  But the manager and GM need to look ahead, play some young guys from AA or AAA.. see what they have.  Whoops, we got swept.

The idea that a fan who's strategically looking ahead for whatever slight advantages a team might be able to get going forward is the casual fan is laughable. 

Even last place teams, teams long out of the running, have fans in the seats right up to the last game of the season.  What could be responsible for such bizarre behavior?  Could it be that there are people out there who appreciate the game on its own terms, regardless of any larger context?   For some of us, a hard-fought nine innings is rewarding enough to spend the time and money to attend and the rest can take care of itself.

So maybe it's the notion that "You play to win championships. Period" that's overly simplistic.  Or worse.  I've always wondered if this attitude is nothing more than the unfortunate byproduct of sports talk radio poisioning or too much fantasy baseball.  The title of this thread certainly makes you wonder.   Championships are a worthy goal and I won't go down the rabbit hole of who is and isn't a "true fan", but any fan who finds himself concocting strategic reasons for wanting his favorite team to lose needs to take a long, hard look at his thought process beginning with the proposition that these last few games are meaningless.  The meaning is rooted in the contest itself and it always will be.

 

[$Greatness$]

4 minutes ago, 24fps said:

Even last place teams, teams long out of the running, have fans in the seats right up to the last game of the season.  What could be responsible for such bizarre behavior?  Could it be that there are people out there who appreciate the game on its own terms, regardless of any larger context?   For some of us, a hard-fought nine innings is rewarding enough to spend the time and money to attend and the rest can take care of itself.

So maybe it's the notion that "You play to win championships. Period" that's overly simplistic.  Or worse.  I've always wondered if this attitude is nothing more than the unfortunate byproduct of sports talk radio poisioning or too much fantasy baseball.  The title of this thread certainly makes you wonder.   Championships are a worthy goal and I won't go down the rabbit hole of who is and isn't a "true fan", but any fan who finds himself concocting strategic reasons for wanting his favorite team to lose needs to take a long, hard look at his thought process beginning with the proposition that these last few games are meaningless.  The meaning is rooted in the contest itself and it always will be.

 

And that's all I got to say about that!

[Tx Oriole]

21 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

 

I liked him. Good actor. 

[Fla_O'sfan]

They're off to a good start!

[Going Underground]

The Orioles have quit. Been mailing it in for a few weeks. Tried on the last Hardy home game but don't care and don't try. 

[TouchemAll]

With the way this team has rolled over in September I would say your sweep is HIGHLY possible.

Not really a happy O's fan right now this is the 1st time that I really feel that Buck's O's have thrown in the towel and ROLLED OVER. .

[Going Underground]

Dempsey just said the Orioles are just going through the motions. Taking wild swings to pad their stats.No one else in the Baltimore media would say that. But you don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows Also said Manny delayed stealing third was pretty stupid and not much more you can say about it