Britton Out 6 months per Rosenthal

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, HelenaEngineer said:

I think having a reputation for doing the right thing ethically and morally even though there was legal way to get out of that obligation would be a good thing to have. It would be worth a hell of a lot more than $10 million bucks in a one-time savings.

Yea, I disagree.

How about you give me 10 million then you can slander my name all you like.

I think all that paying him 10 million will accomplish is making him 10 million richer at the expense of team payroll.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, MDtransplant757 said:

Yep. I do. He was a year away too. 

And how did that whole Bundy/Harvey one-two punch work out?

Shouldn't they both be 20 game winners by now?

[Going Underground]

15 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

And the Orioles' inactivity did anger the Baseball Gods and in response they did smote Britton causing him most grievous injury.

'These, moreover, you shall detest among the birds; they are abhorrent, not to be eaten: the eagle and the vulture and the buzzard,

[gmelson26]

1 hour ago, Frobby said:

I’m just waiting for the “Manny Machado trips on sidewalk and breaks six bones” article now.   

Maybe we'd be able to to extend him?  With a 1-2 year player opt out.

[HelenaEngineer]

4 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Yea, I disagree.

How about you give me 10 million then you can slander my name all you like.

I think all that paying him 10 million will accomplish is making him 10 million richer at the expense of team payroll.

So 10 million is probably a bit under 1% of the team's value and maybe somewhere around 3% of the annual revenue. I would sacrifice 3% of my annual salary if I thought it would keep my business reputation intact. If you don't think players, including current Orioles and potential future free agents look at how teams treat their players, then by all means, save that 3%. I suspect the long term cost in terms of players avoiding you, particularly his current teammates, would be considerably greater. They are human beings, not some sort of fantasy draft and they make judgments based on how they see people treated. If life was like OOTP or Strat-O-Matic, it would be an easy call.

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, HelenaEngineer said:

So 10 million is probably a bit under 1% of the team's value and maybe somewhere around 3% of the annual revenue. I would sacrifice 3% of my annual salary if I thought it would keep my business reputation intact. If you don't think players, including current Orioles and potential future free agents look at how teams treat their players, then by all means, save that 3%. I suspect the long term cost in terms of players avoiding you, particularly his current teammates, would be considerably greater. They are human beings, not some sort of fantasy draft and they make judgments based on how they see people treated. If life was like OOTP or Strat-O-Matic, it would be an easy call.

I don't think there will ever be a situation where how the Orioles treat Britton will be the deciding factor for another player.

[Roll Tide]

2 hours ago, Rene88 said:

Wow. I guess occasionally  it pays to be quicker on things.

As anyone suggested offering a reasonable extension?

[HelenaEngineer]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

I don't think there will ever be a situation where how the Orioles treat Britton will be the deciding factor for another player.

Well then, I guess we just have a fundamental disagreement about human nature and the set of factors that motivate personal decision making. 

 

[pastorfan]

15 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Yea, I disagree.

How about you give me 10 million then you can slander my name all you like.

I think all that paying him 10 million will accomplish is making him 10 million richer at the expense of team payroll.

Yeah really. There is nothing immoral about this. The Yanks hardly gave up anything for Chapman bc he was charged with domestic violence. No one called them out. Then they parlayed that into a big prospect haul--that might be immoral!

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, HelenaEngineer said:

Well then, I guess we just have a fundamental disagreement about human nature and the set of factors that motivate personal decision making. 

 

Do you honestly think anyone outside of Britton and Boras will even remember what the Orioles decide six months from now?

[HelenaEngineer]

3 minutes ago, pastorfan said:

Yeah really. There is nothing immoral about this. The Yanks hardly gave up anything for Chapman bc he was charged with domestic violence. No one called them out. Then they parlayed that into a big prospect haul--that might be immoral!

There is no similarity between the Britton situation and the Chapman case whatsoever. That is totally irrelevant.

[Aglets]

Keep in mind that Britton was worth exactly 1.0 WAR for us last year.   I think we can find some ways to make that up with our current roster or FA market.  His salary could really hurt tho.........not sure how insurance works.

[HelenaEngineer]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Do you honestly think anyone outside of Britton and Boras will even remember what the Orioles decide six months from now?

Yes, but even if only Boras remembered that could cost a lot more than $10 million in lost opportunity to sign his clients. I have been reading for years on this board how free agents avoid the Orioles because they have a tendency to fail broken down, sore armed pitchers on their physicals, and now I am supposed to believe that no one will remember that they saved a chunk of money, of course nowhere near enough to make a substantive difference in the overall long term makeup of their team, by cutting a player who has been one of their top players over the past several seasons and was injured while working out. They will get blistered by ex-players, agents and all sorts of talking heads if they do that, while some bean counter fantasy guru will sing their praises.

[pastorfan]

4 minutes ago, HelenaEngineer said:

Yes, but even if only Boras remembered that could cost a lot more than $10 million in lost opportunity to sign his clients. I have been reading for years on this board how free agents avoid the Orioles because they have a tendency to fail broken down, sore armed pitchers on their physicals, and now I am supposed to believe that no one will remember that they saved a chunk of money, of course nowhere near enough to make a substantive difference in the overall long term makeup of their team, by cutting a player who has been one of their top players over the past several seasons and was injured while working out. They will get blistered by ex-players, agents and all sorts of talking heads if they do that, while some bean counter fantasy guru will sing their praises.

Ok Zach, obviously this is you. You don't need to use a pseudonym on this board, you could just use your real name. Yes, we are sorry you got hurt, but we are not going to just give you 10m to make you happy.

 

[gmelson26]

Looks like a spot on the roster might just have opened up for Palmeiro!  I know I'm excited!