Orioles out On Cobb per Roch

[Can_of_corn]

15 minutes ago, Number5 said:

IIRC, Vlad took less at the last minute to play for the Angels than what the Orioles had offered.

My recollection was that it wasn't at the last minute.  Vlad just held onto the O's offer until a team he would rather play for more or less matched it.

 

[Bahama O's Fan]

I just read that we are interested in Lynn too. We need both, at 17-20 million per year and call it an offseason.

[tntoriole]

8 hours ago, wildcard said:

Its not that simple to say the most money.   Some players get a few teams bidding on them.  He picks the team he  wants and then his agent stops taking bids from the other teams and makes sure the preferred team gets the last and highest bid.   Other teams may have bid higher but they didn't get a chance.

If an agent actually does this, he is a fool.  If I am the player, I would insist on taking bids from any team possible and  would keep the bids going as high as possible up to the very last second and then pick.  In fact, I would keep asking interested teams if they wanted to bid more until they said no mas. And an agent working on percentage would be crazy not to keep seeking the highest bids possible. 

[tntoriole]

18 minutes ago, Bahama O's Fan said:

I just read that we are interested in Lynn too. We need both, at 17-20 million per year and call it an offseason.

Odds on getting either are slim to none, imho. 

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, tntoriole said:

If an agent actually does this, he is a fool.  If I am the player, I would insist on taking bids from any team possible and  would keep the bids going as high as possible up to the very last second and then pick.  In fact, I would keep asking interested teams if they wanted to bid more until they said no mas. And an agent working on percentage would be crazy not to keep seeking the highest bids possible. 

If you read what WC said, it would be the player that directs the agent to stop taking offers.  You think an agent that does what his client tells him to do is a fool?

[tntoriole]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

If you read what WC said, it would be the player that directs the agent to stop taking offers.  You think an agent that does what his client tells him to do is a fool?

Hard to see why a player would do such a thing.   Does he think somehow that he won’t be able to say no if more money comes in, so he shuts it off from certain teams prematurely?  And if I am his agent, it is my obligation to give him advice and opinion and as many options as possible and then certainly he chooses..not just blindly do whatever he says.  Why have an agent at all  if the player doesn’t let him do his job.  An agent not even presenting the player with demonstrably higher offers would be foolish, imho. 

[Bahama O's Fan]

7 minutes ago, tntoriole said:

Odds on getting either are slim to none, imho. 

I agree, but if they are serious about going for it in Dan and Buck's last season, make sure they turn down the most money to play for another team.

[Tryptamine]

Update. Thanks to an overwhelming interest in Cobb's services, his asking price has boomed for 4/48 up to 4/80. The Cubs, who were at one point very heavy favorites, are no longer involved thanks to the price tag.

[ThomasTomasz]

3 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

Update. Thanks to an overwhelming interest in Cobb's services, his asking price has boomed for 4/48 up to 4/80. The Cubs, who were at one point very heavy favorites, are no longer involved thanks to the price tag.

On another forum that I run, we were calling that with Cobb and Lynn both.  It was a certainty that the Orioles would be out of that market, and if a bunch of dudes on an Internet forum saw it, color me shocked that the Orioles didn't.  

[ReclaimTheCrown]

Just now, ThomasTomasz said:

On another forum that I run, we were calling that with Cobb and Lynn both.  It was a certainty that the Orioles would be out of that market, and if a bunch of dudes on an Internet forum saw it, color me shocked that the Orioles didn't.  

It is pretty odd that MLBTR's projections seem to be pretty far off for a lot of these guys. Sometimes they seem to be from the DD school of starting pitching sticker shock....I think pretty much every team in baseball would've happily added him on a 4/48 contract.

Like you said, if it was quickly recognized by fans on a site like this that such a contract would be easily exceeded, you'd think MLBTR may recognize that too.

Oh well.

[VeveJones007]

10 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

Update. Thanks to an overwhelming interest in Cobb's services, his asking price has boomed for 4/48 up to 4/80. The Cubs, who were at one point very heavy favorites, are no longer involved thanks to the price tag.

4/60.

[Tryptamine]

6 minutes ago, VeveJones007 said:

4/60.

I wasn't going off MLB Trade Rumors, was going off an article from when he met with the Cubs in Chicago, regardless, not important anymore.

[VeveJones007]

2 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

I wasn't going off MLB Trade Rumors, was going off an article from when he met with the Cubs in Chicago, regardless, not important anymore.

That was just my opinion of where he’ll end up (i.e. somewhere in between).

[Tryptamine]

Just now, VeveJones007 said:

That was just my opinion of where he’ll end up (i.e. somewhere in between).

I hope you're right, 4/60 seems entirely reasonable. 20M annually or 5 years though, no thanks at all.

[backwardsk]

5 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

I hope you're right, 4/60 seems entirely reasonable. 20M annually or 5 years though, no thanks at all.

What other teams are in play?