Roch's latest blog is seriously depressing

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On 1/29/2018 at 2:07 PM, LC_O's_87 said:

(1) You are talking about the team that had one of the longest runs of futility in modern baseball history.  There were at least 3 semi-rebuilds that failed; 1 "reload" that had the team in contention for a half season; and the rest you depressing sub-standard teams with little chance of contention.  exactly the outcome that the poster you quoted suggests will happen again.

(2)  Before those 6 years of contention, they were awful.   Macphail did a rebuild going into 2008, trading the club's best pitcher Bedard and their (declining) best hitter Tejada.  He then traded Ramon Hernandez after 2008 They didn't hide the fact they were rebuilding.

Of course, Angelos wouldn't let him  Macphail do a full tear-down and offload a lot of other guys who the club held onto for too long.  Perhaps that's why it took them another 4 years to get competitive.

Fact remains that the team wasn't pulled out of their death spiral until they traded their premium players for prospects and actually hit on some draft picks.....IE the exact formula you just discounted.

  

I think team succeeded when they went out and got a bunch of starters.   They got Chen,  Hammel,  and Gonzalez.  And then got Saunder at trade deadline.  None of those guys was under 26.  Rebuild not needed.

DD just needs to repeat that in next two weeks and we will be good to go. 

[Frobby]

5 hours ago, cimota said:

I think team succeeded when they went out and got a bunch of starters.   They got Chen,  Hammel,  and Gonzalez.  And then got Saunder at trade deadline.  None of those guys was under 26.  Rebuild not needed.

DD just needs to repeat that in next two weeks and we will be good to go. 

This is why Duquette succeeded where MacPhail failed.    He actually found us some pitching in 2012.     That year, almost every move he made worked out, and a couple of them had multi-year benefits (Chen and Gonzalez, primarily).     After 2012, his track record is far more spotty.

[Larry18]

4 hours ago, Frobby said:

This is why Duquette succeeded where MacPhail failed.    He actually found us some pitching in 2012.     That year, almost every move he made worked out, and a couple of them had multi-year benefits (Chen and Gonzalez, primarily).     After 2012, his track record is far more spotty.

Any idea how if Dan's post 2012 record is vastly different than his predecessors?