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12 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

You know he’s 25 right?  Hasn’t played the position in 6 years. He’s played SS in professional baseball for maybe 2 years. Yup, he’s no SS. 

So guys get more range as they get older?  

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19 hours ago, atomic said:

The Sun says the Red Sox and Yankees are no longer interested in trading for Machado do to his reluctance to play third base.

Red Sox have Devers who looks like a long term regular.  Did Manny really say he wouldn't play 3B if he was traded?

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The metrics say that Manny is below average at 3B.  The eye test agrees with that.  I'm not sure how being a below average SS raises your value compared to a gold glove 3B.  I'll be glad when Mannyworld goes somewhere else.  Its Manny's world, we're just living in it.  

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Just now, OriolesMagic83 said:

The metrics say that Manny is below average at 3B.  The eye test agrees with that.  I'm not sure how being a below average SS raises your value compared to a gold glove 3B.  I'll be glad when Mannyworld goes somewhere else.  Its Manny's world, we're just living in it.  

Because his bat is strong enough at short that he still provides substantial value.  Jeter was never a quality defensive shortstop.

 

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1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

Because his bat is strong enough at short that he still provides substantial value.  Jeter was never a quality defensive shortstop.

 

How would costing the team runs defensively at SS be better than saving runs defensively at 3B?  Was Beckham that much worse at SS than Manny?

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2 minutes ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

How would costing the team runs defensively at SS be better than saving runs defensively at 3B?  Was Beckham that much worse at SS than Manny?

I wasn't in favor of switching Beckham and Machado, I made that very clear at the time.

What if a team has a third baseman and needs a shortstop? 

The average player at third has a superior offensive profile to the average player at short.  Manny's bat provides more value above the average at short than third.

 

I'd play him at third before short but that doesn't mean playing short hasn't increased his value somewhat.

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1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

 

I've not seen anything that has convinced me that Machado is better.

I think he's worse.  The move diminished the defense at SS and dramatically diminished it at 3B.  When you make a move to pander to players, you can expect bad things to happen.  I think that's exactly what happened.  It was a last-ditch effort to try to convince Manny to stay, and it almost certainly won't be successful.  

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