Why not Lucroy?

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, weams said:

I'm not a Joseph fan, though I hear he is a fine fellow. I used to be. But the bloom is off him for me. 

I think Lucroy would bump Sisco from the 25 man not Joseph.

[mdbdotcom]

Signing LuCroy would be fine as long as we then traded Joseph. Have to have room for the kids to play.

[sportsfan8703]

8 minutes ago, weams said:

I'm not a Joseph fan, though I hear he is a fine fellow. I used to be. But the bloom is off him for me. 

I like that. I feel like we give Joseph a free pass too much. I guess because the cup injury and all. Welington will be missed.  I don’t buy that he affected the pitching.  We just had terrible pitching.

I think this is a moot point because Sisco is going to rake this ST.

 

[Legend_Of_Joey]

55 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

I like that. I feel like we give Joseph a free pass too much. I guess because the cup injury and all. Welington will be missed.  I don’t buy that he affected the pitching.  We just had terrible pitching.

I think this is a moot point because Sisco is going to rake this ST.

 

Yet stats showed that the terrible pitching the Orioles had were a lot better with Joseph, not Castillo, behind the plate.

[Dark Helmet]

1 hour ago, tropicos said:

If we were trotting out both Hardy & Joseph everyday, than Lucroy's OBP would be a welcome boost. However, in our current state, I don't mind one very subpar hitter in the lineup who provides very good defense at catcher.  Defense & pitch-calling/framing is too important at catcher, especially with our main weakness coming from the starting pitching squad.  Castillo provided plenty of offense at C last year, didn't help much. Let Sisco bat if offense at C is a concern. I don't think Lucroy is much of an improvement, if any at all. 

I'd agree if Lucroy was bad defensively.  He's very good defensively AND could provide a better bat. 

[Dark Helmet]

21 minutes ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

Yet stats showed that the terrible pitching the Orioles had were a lot better with Joseph, not Castillo, behind the plate.

So the first 6 weeks when the pitching was good and Castillo was starting had nothing to do with Castillo? 

[Dark Helmet]

1 hour ago, mdbdotcom said:

Signing LuCroy would be fine as long as we then traded Joseph. Have to have room for the kids to play.

You think the Orioles will let Sisco break camp and lose a year of control? I dont.

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, Dark Helmet said:

You think the Orioles will let Sisco break camp and lose a year of control? I dont.

Other than Wieters, who was a Boras client and hyped to the gills, when have the Orioles played service time games?

[Legend_Of_Joey]

15 minutes ago, Dark Helmet said:

So the first 6 weeks when the pitching was good and Castillo was starting had nothing to do with Castillo? 

Yet those other 22 weeks of the season were just magical for the pitchers, weren't they?

[mdbdotcom]

15 minutes ago, Dark Helmet said:

You think the Orioles will let Sisco break camp and lose a year of control? I dont.

They had no problem letting Schoop do it. Also, they could keep Wynn's up and send Sisco down to start the season.

[Beef Supreme]

36 minutes ago, Dark Helmet said:

I'd agree if Lucroy was bad defensively.  He's very good defensively AND could provide a better bat.

I think Lucroy would be a huge upgrade defensively over Sisco. Castillo, too.

[Beef Supreme]

2 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think Sisco's power plays better in the majors and he could easily end up a 108 OPS+ guy with decent on base skills.

I also don't  want upwards of five slots on the 40 man roster going to catchers.

Not to worry. The team would dfa Susac or Wynns if they were to sign Lucroy.

[sportsfan8703]

59 minutes ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

Yet stats showed that the terrible pitching the Orioles had were a lot better with Joseph, not Castillo, behind the plate.

Didn’t we try to make Castillo Ubaldo’s personal catcher?

[Frobby]

1 hour ago, sportsfan8703 said:

I like that. I feel like we give Joseph a free pass too much. I guess because the cup injury and all. Welington will be missed.  I don’t buy that he affected the pitching.  We just had terrible pitching.

 

So the fact that our starters’ ERA was like two runs/game higher with Castillo compared to Joseph is a coincidence in your view?    In my opinion, that’s too drastic of a difference to have been coincidental.  

[Legend_Of_Joey]

8 minutes ago, Beef Supreme said:

Not to worry. The team would dfa Susac or Wynns if they were to sign Lucroy.

Susac 100%

1 minute ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Didn’t we try to make Castillo Ubaldo’s personal catcher?

That turned out real well, didn't it?