Cobb to Orioles (Confirmed by Roch Kubatko)

[Babypowder]

2 minutes ago, backwardsk said:

We may not get an opportunity to compare results for the two.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brewcrewball.com/platform/amp/2018/3/17/17133332/milwaukee-brewers-wade-miley-starting-rotation-minor-league-decision

 

He will likely catch on somewhere, I would think. He was a league average starting pitcher until last year.

[weams]

1 minute ago, weams said:

A guy like Donaldson. Or Bautista. Or RA Dickey

Or Rich Hill. 

[ISU94]

Yessss

This is big.

[Frobby]

Well, this boring day has gotten a lot more interesting.    

[Hank Scorpio]

At least Cashner has a powerbeard. Hopefully that provides the little extra edge he needs.

[orioles4lyfe]

2 minutes ago, Dark Helmet said:

Heard it's a 3/48m deal with a team option that kicks in a 4th and 5th year. Not sure if that's true.

I could see this. $15mil this year, $16 next, and $17 in the 3rd year. 

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, orioles4lyfe said:

If he's throwing 95, peripherals should improve. 

Would be funny if his velocity was back, his peripherals improved but the results were worse.

[Beef Supreme]

Just now, Frobby said:

I doubt the Orioles care much about what kind of comp pick Tampa gets, so long as the draft pick the Orioles lose is unaffected.     I can’t imagine the negotiations will hinge on that point.  

I disagree. If the magic number is $50MM, a smart team would convince him to sign for $49.999,999 because it is in the best interest of the player's new team, as opposed to being in the best interest of the player's former team. What kind of person would balk over the $1? If that breaks the deal, the Orioles would be right to let him sign elsewhere.

[interloper]

3 minutes ago, Babypowder said:

Yeah, I'll take decades of historical data over a couple of spring training starts. If he doesn't improve the peripherals, he's going to be bad.

I just disagree. He might get knocked around every now and then if he's catching too much of the plate or if he loses the breaking stuff for a game. But I don't think he's going to be outright BAD. He's going to be mostly fine, and I think he's proven that. Just because a guy has suspect peripherals doesn't automatically doom him to being BAD. We just need him to be decent and there's almost no reason to think he won't be based on the stuff he's showing.

We know bad when we see it. We know that Mike Wright has no idea where the ball is going but gets outs sometimes anyway. To me, that doesn't seem to be the case with Cashner.

[Babypowder]

2 minutes ago, orioles4lyfe said:

If he's throwing 95, peripherals should improve. 

He was throwing 95 last year.

[tntoriole]

This is excellent news.  My kudos to the old man and Dan for this!  2018 can be much more competitive without Mike Wright in the rotation.   

[backwardsk]

1 minute ago, Babypowder said:

He will likely catch on somewhere, I would think. He was a league average starting pitcher until last year.

He may catch on with another team, but he hasn't had an ERA+ of 100 or better since 2013.

[Yardball85]

3 minutes ago, Yardball85 said:

 

VERY curious about these terms... 

[Beef Supreme]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

Would be funny if his velocity was back, his peripherals improved but the results were worse.

His strikeouts were at the highest rates of Cashner's career during his worst seasons.

[Babypowder]

Just now, interloper said:

I just disagree. He might get knocked around every now and then if he's catching too much of the plate or if he loses the breaking stuff for a game. But I don't think he's going to be outright BAD. He's going to be mostly fine, and I think he's proven that. Just because a guy has suspect peripherals doesn't automatically doom him to being BAD. We just need him to be decent and there's almost no reason to think he won't be based on the stuff he's showing.

We know bad when we see it. We know that Mike Wright has no idea where the ball is going but gets outs sometimes anyway. To me, that doesn't seem to be the case with Cashner.

Who has had sustained success as a starter in recent years with a k rate under 5?