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25 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I don't think the Rays planned on tanking.  Losing 40% of their rotation to TJ surgery in ST decided it for them.

True. You could argue that they even more than the Orioles can’t afford to be caught in the middle, and perhaps they should have listened harder on those offers they were getting for Archer.

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2 hours ago, SteveA said:

Yeah, I don't think that the "window closing" at the end of 2018, even if we get nothing but a pick for Manny, looks as bad is it did previously.

A nucleus in 2019-21 of Harvey, Bundy, Cobb, Cashner, Gausman, Sisco, Schoop , Beckham, Hays, Stewart, Mullins, Mountcastle, Santander, Castro, Bleier, Araujo, Scott... (yes, I realize not all those guys are under control thru 21, but most are).   I think you can start with that and make some moves and have a half decent team.   And if you do make some deadline deals this July, that only looks better.   I think we have some more potential arms that could make that list too, starting or in relief.

Yes, we still have some albatross contracts, but two of them will end soon and one will eventually result in a DFA and eating some money.

I see no reason to state that this team is condemned to a long stretch of losing beginning in 2019, which was almost a given in discussions on this board as recently as this past offseason.   If the rumors that Lou & John aren't so averse to international spending as their father are true, that would be a plus too.

This is a very good summary of positivitynesses.

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2 hours ago, SteveA said:

Yeah, I don't think that the "window closing" at the end of 2018, even if we get nothing but a pick for Manny, looks as bad is it did previously.

A nucleus in 2019-21 of Harvey, Bundy, Cobb, Cashner, Gausman, Sisco, Schoop , Beckham, Hays, Stewart, Mullins, Mountcastle, Santander, Castro, Bleier, Araujo, Scott... (yes, I realize not all those guys are under control thru 21, but most are).   I think you can start with that and make some moves and have a half decent team.   And if you do make some deadline deals this July, that only looks better.   I think we have some more potential arms that could make that list too, starting or in relief.

Yes, we still have some albatross contracts, but two of them will end soon and one will eventually result in a DFA and eating some money.

I see no reason to state that this team is condemned to a long stretch of losing beginning in 2019, which was almost a given in discussions on this board as recently as this past offseason.   If the rumors that Lou & John aren't so averse to international spending as their father are true, that would be a plus too.

The starting and thoughts about this tread have been enjoyable, thanks to all. Encouraged most by the talks of a rebuild.

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2 hours ago, Frobby said:

 

8 quality starts in 18 games, plus two other very solid starts. 5 QS in the last 8 games, and one other very solid start.   I'm hoping that Cobb rebounds tomorrow.  

 

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I'm hoping so too, but as I asserted in several other threads, I would not be surprised if he didn't come around until his 3rd, 4th, or 5th start of the season.

Cashner signed late, but not nearly as late as did Cobb ...... subsequently, whereas Cashner has appeared to settle in after only one bad start, Cobb may take a little longer. We'll see.

 

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