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Just now, Mondo Trasho said:

I understand what you are saying. I'm simply saying that its impact on the fate of that O's team is overstated.

Once we went into extras, it was either lose that day or lose in the next round. It's not like the team was on a way ticket to the WS and got derailed by Buck's management.

I disagree. Not using Zach Britton had a major impact considering the guy was practically unhittable that year and he was fresh and ready to go. Sure, maybe he blows the game too, but that is bearable because at least we made Toronto go through our best pitcher to beat us. The odds are Zach gives the Orioles at least two innings and perhaps three to score some runs off of Liriano. It is unfathomable to not use Zach at all. Not even after Ubaldo put one guy on base and not even after he put a second guy on base with Toronto's most dangerous hitter at the plate. Still don't bring him in? I think you're understating it.. a lot.

Why do you assume the O's lose in the next round? Toronto threw everything they had at us and still swept Texas in the ALDS.

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1 hour ago, vatech1994 said:

His “photo” as you call it  is of Larry David.  I take it you aren’t a Seinfeld or Curb My Enthusiasm fan.  Pity.  Both great shows.

I realized it was Larry David. I  like Seinfeld but Curb your enthusiasm I can't stand. Larry David is trying to be George Constanza but instead of being funny he just comes off as super annoying.

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13 minutes ago, Sessh said:

Mmm.. I did just say "quit" was a little strong a few minutes ago. Did you miss that?

These guys are professionals and competitors and I don't define "quit" in this situation as not trying as much as no longer buying into a message or having the same trust in the one leading you. At this point, I do think Buck has lost the team and I think that seed was planted when we lost the wild card game the way we did. I don't think it was an instant thing as is the conclusion almost everyone on here immediately jumps to as much as it is a gradual process, but we'll see how this season shakes out. Being swept by the Tigers who gave up the season before it even started is pretty pathetic.

I was probably typing my post when you made your post pulling back on the term “quitting.”    I’m a painfully slow typist, especially on my phone.  

As to the team not buying into Buck’s message, I dunno.   It’s not really provable one way or the other.    What I mostly see is a team that’s pressing, and frankly, isn’t a great team.   But they certainly are capable of getting hot and winning a bunch of games, too.    

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1 hour ago, Aglets said:

Just as factual as my numbers actually looking at 2017 in more detail.  If you can convince me how a team that threw in the towel still had a winning record in September I'll gladly be persuaded.

Looking at numbers from multiple seasons means you lose details....which no one would willingly choose to do unless those details contradicted a story they were trying to tell.  But I suspect you know this.

It appears that they were 7-20 in September of 2017. 

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I was probably typing my post when you made your post pulling back on the term “quitting.”    I’m a painfully slow typist, especially on my phone.  

As to the team not buying into Buck’s message, I dunno.   It’s not really provable one way or the other.    What I mostly see is a team that’s pressing, and frankly, isn’t a great team.   But they certainly are capable of getting hot and winning a bunch of games, too.    

Fair enough. I do remember seeing you say that you're a one finger "hunt and peck" typer. :) That's really amazing considering how much you post here. Don't you get finger blisters? lol

I know and I'm sure this team will rattle off a winning streak or two over the course of the season. Even the worst teams can do that. We'll just have to see what happens.

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3 minutes ago, atomic said:

I realized it was Larry David. I  like Seinfeld but Curb your enthusiasm I can't stand. Larry David is trying to be George Constanza but instead of being funny he just comes off as super annoying.

I find him hilarious because he’s super annoying.   He’s basically George on steroids.

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58 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I always thought he should go with these guys:

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That would be perfect actually. They even spell his name. They love AGLET and Aglets is plural, so he's double cool then. Maybe more than double, who knows how plural it is? Maybe it's 10 Aglets. I think he missed out on a good thing there. :)

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1 minute ago, Sessh said:

That would be perfect actually. They even spell his name. They love AGLET and Aglets is plural, so he's double cool then. Maybe more than double, who knows how plural it is? Maybe it's 10 Aglets. I think he missed out on a good thing there. :)

Maybe he's just unaware.

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1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

Isn't he George?

I don't particularly watch either show but wasn't the George character based on him?

Yes.    And it’s very obvious once you’ve seen Curb.    But who knew at the time?

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2 hours ago, atomic said:

It appears that they were 7-20 in September of 2017. 

Stop it.  You read my post about 71-68.  You've read multiple other people cite that record as well.  

You know that the 2017 team won over half of their first 139 games they played..... if you want to say they quit after that at least the numbers would make sense.  As it is you have to explain how these demoralized quitters still played incredibly well in April and August the next year and were competitive into September. 

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2 hours ago, atomic said:

I realized it was Larry David. I  like Seinfeld but Curb your enthusiasm I can't stand. Larry David is trying to be George Constanza but instead of being funny he just comes off as super annoying.

So you were being insincere about my identity too?  Interesting.  At least you're consistent. 

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