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The Chris Davis Adderal Exemptions

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2 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

There is also the thing we're some medications effect people differently. Vyvanse may be in the same drug family but just not effective for Chris. And then there is the tolerance build up.

.262/.361/.562, 47 HR, 117 RBI on Vyvanse in 2015.    I’d say it was effective.   

As to whether he built up a tolerance, I don’t know.   But to me his decline is about declining bat speed and the changes in approach and confidence that it brings.

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Medications are why Americans life expectancy is going down while the rest of the first world countries are going up.  Simple solution to a problem is give people drugs to make problems go away.  But long term they are very destructive to the body,. Your liver and kidneys hVe to deal with all these drugs people decide to put into themselves so doctors and pharmacies get rich. Turn off the tv and get rid of electronic devices and read.  Do tasks that require concentration.  

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On 6/8/2018 at 8:15 AM, tntoriole said:

I am a psychiatrist...and it would not be ethical for me to opine in any specific fashion about a public figure who I have not examined.   There are many possibilities regarding anyone's failure to perform one of the most difficult acts in all of human sports...hitting a pitched ball at 90 plus mph.   I am sure that the issues you mentioned have and are being carefully assessed by his treating psychiatrist in regards to what is best for Chris.    And there are many, many instances of failures at his line of work that have absolutely nothing to do with any medications.  

Hypothetically, are there issues due to long time use of amphetamines that could impair a MLB batter?

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7 minutes ago, thezeroes said:

https://www.drugrehab.org/long-term-effects-amphetamine-abuse/

I do a lot of research.  I had worked in the pharmaceutical industry for years.  Anyone involved is adamant not to take any medication unless it's truly dire.

Honestly, I only asked because I wanted to here first hand from a licensed professional on the subject.  I have never heard from a psychiatrist on the issue.

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5 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

This is why I blame MLB! Why grant a guy an exemption for a diagnosed medical condition only to not allow it later? This stupid decision has the Orioles paying for performance he's likely never to repeat without the medication. 

The side affects are what they are and that would be on the prescribing physician. 

Agreed, although the O's should have had access to his medical history and priced in the risk.

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42 minutes ago, gmelson26 said:

Honestly, I only asked because I wanted to here first hand from a licensed professional on the subject.  I have never heard from a psychiatrist on the issue.

Well, the article would give the novice on this board a better understanding of the usage/abuses of these types of treatments.

https://www.drugrehab.org/long-term-effects-amphetamine-abuse/

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3 hours ago, connja said:

If he's not on anything now, he should just start cheating.   It may be his only hope to save his career!

And the only way he can lose all his money.  He can't cheat. It's not like he has a HOF career to protect like A-Rod or Raffy. 

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29 minutes ago, elgordo said:

Point being since he hit well without it it's not likely to have had any effect on his hitting.

I never said he was on nothing. You misunderstood me. I apologize for not being more clear. 

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1 minute ago, weams said:

I never said he was on nothing. You misunderstood me. I apologize for not being more clear. 

But he was on nothing that year, unless you think he did Steroids. He hit well with and without. Other factors are involved.

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2 minutes ago, elgordo said:

But he was on nothing that year, unless you think he did Steroids. He hit well with and without. Other factors are involved.

How do you know he was not taking amphetamines without approval? Or even prescription? He tested dirty twice. 

And I meant to ask you. Why do you use the screen name of another poster?  It's confusing to me and I assume others. PM me a different one. 

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2 hours ago, Aristotelian said:

Agreed, although the O's should have had access to his medical history and priced in the risk.

They should’ve went to MLB to get assurances of exemption through the contract due to the magnitude.

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6 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

They should’ve went to MLB to get assurances of exemption through the contract due to the magnitude.

But what if Davis were to stop taking his medication, as he allegedly did the first time?  Anyone using a TUE should have to strictly adhere to the prescribed dosage.

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